Virtual Sex

That get's tot he heart of perhaps the one thing I would hope everyone could take from this thread... that the reality is going to be far different from any fantasy the person held.

Some thoughts I had on training as I re-read this.

First is that a great deal of instruction whether it be for Dominants or submissives is done more often in a one on one sort of format. The reason for that is more practical then anything as those first steps are often very nerve-wracking, and done easier with only one other person present, but there is  also the simple truth that there can be a great many concerns that make a large house like in The Story of O impractical. (The sad truth is that a great many locations have laws that make consenting BDSM illegal despite that consent,)

Secondly is that the training is only the beginning. While to this day I have always felt my initial instruction was excellent even as it was happening it was my growth as I had those experiences that helped make me into the Domme I am today. christinak's sharing of her discovery of her nature as a switch is an excellent example.

Perhaps a good way to think of training is like when you learn to walk, or ride a bike. Most of the time you'll have someone there to encourage you on, and catch you if you stumble, but ultimately you are the one who gets moving, and keeps moving.

Thirdly is that you will have those elitist types who feel that the way they were trained is the only "real" way someone should be trained. They can be safely ignored, or maybe even directed to someone who holds the opposing viewpoint so you can watch them rip each other apart. 

Skimming, but yes, all are welcome in this thread.

Brandy dear, in BDSM, when practiced in a healthy fashion (NOT like the topic we had been discussing) they ARE equals, and the submissive CHOOSES to submit, desires it, craves it. 99% of the time I am 100% authoritative, and in control, but you put me in a room with Sinnnn and I want nothing more then to follow her every command.

But when we are having normal conversations I can comfort her when she's stressed, and we can disagree without it being taken as anything other then differing opinions.

There is nothing inherently good or bad in it except for the shame that society forcibly attaches to it, but as long as it practiced in that healthy fashion it is only cosmetically different from any other relationship.

There is no definite about how to approach anyone about anything sexually. 

Two major pointers though.

-"Can I watch?" Is a real life cliche. The biggest problem with it is that those usually asking seem to think it more live action porn then two people (who happen to both be women) being INTIMATE. So the approach had best take into account both women are sharing something special, and you need to respect that. The freewheeling nature of AChat helps, but it's like an infinitely more complex normal approach, if you are not respectful, you are likely to fail.

-The idea that they will just watch isn't a trusted one. Sure the guy may swear it up and down, on both parent's graves, but once things get going the expectation will be that the guy will start wanting to join. Try to give them a reason to trust you, I honestly can't say what that would be as trust is a highly individual thing.

Most importantly, don't push, any discomfort on their part is going to be a mood killer whether it be in chat in advance or in the room as it happens.

My objections are threefold.

The first would be practicality. I mean a tat can get removed, or covered up, or such if feelings change. Removing part of the body is something that goes so far beyond that to me that you almost can't put them in the same category.

Let alone having it something so very vital... it's the kind of forever that most could never conceive, and yet it's the kind of forever that the submissive would have to endure.

Secondly as a woman I just see the third world brutality the term "female castration" conjures up for me, and while I actively strive not the be the bitchy type that throws around the term misogyny lightly, I can't find any other term that would fit. He's literally making her nothing but a instrument for his pleasure, and that's the kind of behavior that I had hoped the majority of the male population has evolved past.

Finally as a Domme taking away a submissives ability to feel pleasure is disgusting to me. To make it only about your enjoyment is to profane at least my definition of what a Dominant should be.

Thank you for adding this Bear. For things to work well they have to be worked on from both (all?) sides. Of course that's as true with vanilla relationships, but when you add in the elements we put in with BDSM it becomes all the more vital.

I saw when I updated, and had to send my congrats to Tight on the launch of his label.

I have to add my congratulations. The release itself is a huge accomplishment, but to have it so successful is wonderful!

Here are the moves... a VERY well done pose.

F1 (Behind-Default is you are performing the action on your partner.)
Quick Rub
Slap Ass
Slap Pussy
Bend Forward
Kiss
Finger in Pussy (You kneel down as you are fingering her.)
Massage Breast (Own)
Grab Neck
Fondle Tits
Suck Finger
More Dynamic
Pinch Nipple
Lick Shoulder
Rub Clit (Own)
Pleasure Face 1&2

F2 (In Front)
Grab Head (Partner's)
Suck Finger (Own)
Enjoy!
Bend Forward (Also laying both your hands on your partner's to guide her.)
Squat
Hands on Neck (Own)
Pinch Nipple (Own, and both.)
Fondle Tits (Own, one hand rubs tits while the other rubs your belly.)
Rub Clit (You finger yourself as she holds you.)
Hip Circle
Slap Ass (Partner's)
Wetting Fingers (You take the hand she's using to finger you and lick the fingers before putting them back.)
Pleasure Face 1&2

Pampered Woman



F1 Giving
Slow Fondle ("Caress" might be a better word because it's more then just a slowed version of normal.)
Grab Tits (You go back and forth grabbing on tit and then the other on your partner.)
Fondle Belly (Partner)
Hug (Self-explanatory, but about damn time.)
Rub Lips (Softly running your finger along your partner's mouth.)
Pinch Nipple (Partner's)
Leg On Partner (Strangely described as you actually pull her leg over yours.)
Rub Pussy (Partner's)
Kiss
Lick Nipple
Kiss Nipple (Again, going from one breast to the other on your partner.)
Lick Pussy
Pleasure Face 1&2

F2 Receiving
Enjoy
Fondle Hand (Sort of guiding their hand on your leg.)
Leg On Partner
Fondle Face (Partner's)
Massage Tit (Partner's)
Pinch Nipple (Own)
Massage Breast (Own)
Fondle Thigh (Own)
Finger Pussy (Own, but a personal fav as partner leans in close to watch.)
Suck Finger (Partner sucks your finger.)
Rub Pussy (You guide her to rub your pussy and then put your hands behind you to push into her hand.)
Hands On Neck (Lacing your fingers behind your neck and laying back.)
Pleasure Face 1&2

I really, really like this pose. It's something we've been asking for, and I can't see anything wrong with the pose.

Just as a note I was talking rules on wearing, the flying is a non-issue.

Umm okay maybe showing either super-geek or super-patriot, but I know here in the US the rules Congress passed state that only uniformed personnel can wear the US flag. That is the actual US flag, the Stars and Stripesaren't so restricted, but out of curiosity, and semi-on topic, do other Countries have similar rules?

Actually Lover that IS a very good point. When licking pussy you most often use your fingers too... have to kick around ideas for a new pose involving just that.

Agreed, would love to lick my way up and down her spots.

The fact that she had a same sex kiss on the ep "Rejoined" just icing on an already amazing cake