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Discussions about sex => Everything about sex and love => Topic started by: Brandybee on July 11, 2012, 01:27:18 PM
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Just lately , Ive noticed and heard rumblings about the discrepancies in the number of poses available to the different orientations in this delightful game. So I thought I'd check them out myself in the shop...
FF have 34 poses ; FS have 35 poses ; FM have 75 poses F Group have 49 poses
SF have 35 poses ; SS have 17 poses ; SM have 30 poses ; S Group have 37 poses
MM have 17 poses ; M group have 47 poses
Quite frankly, As an MF user, I am embarrassed that the minority groups have so few poses and yet pay the same subscription as myself. I know, its a question of money and this is a business .. but MF have over twice the amount of anyone else and the S & M orientations lack of poses is appauling.
In the last poll, my "bedtime" pose won, well I just feel it wouldnt be fair for us to have anymore poses at the moment ... and I ask the Achat Gods to concentrate on the minority orientations...
I can work with the poses we have as I'm sure most of the MF can, and I believe its time now to give the others a fair crack of the whip. You can still make money from the clothes in the shop etc...
It will also encourage more of the minority groups to join the game and I'm sure as your poses come out, they will sell well in the groups concerned.
For me, I dont think I can buy any more MF poses until I feel there's a fairer playing ground for all orientations.
Taking care and showing support for each other in this game is important too. I hope you take notice of someone who plays regular on here. Thank you.
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I think all us girls have actually roomed with that guy who wants to do all 75 poses in one session and I was finished at pose change 5.
No more feeding the energizer bunnies!!
But yes... more clothes... lots. Shopping *glee!*
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hehe sorry tryst but i dont met this guy ;D and i will never meet him (or i will not know its him cause it will be out of room just chatting) lol
welcome to this crazy forum ;)
@brandy : thanks to your support and nice work :) . But it need a precision , what do you call F group ?
If its all 3some who have a F in it , its little wrong cause you cant put the FFF ( and accessory the SSS and MMM ) in the same groups as the FMM/FFM/FSM/FSS/FFS/SSM/SMM cause this is some poses that theorically they dont use .
But i agree that it will be a long work to spare all combinations ;D
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Though the lack of poses for the LGBT community is explained through the economic principles the A-team holds high, I can't deny the big sense of injustice that I have felt from the start of becoming a member. Admitted, I wasn't really bothered about them until after I met a few very nice girls and guys that were outside the 'headset' as it's been called before, recently that lack of poses became blatently clear when spending time with a Tgirl, preparing a surprise for the erotic story contest.
Even with the biggest imagination, it is hard to play out all fantasies with the current offering of poses. It seems almost better to neglect the poses all together and rp solely with words. ::) I wonder if that was the set-up of the game.. The a-team has been working hard to adjust mf poses to fx and sx poses, that has to be said as well. it is a course the A-team has chosen to take about 8-9 months ago. I want to point that out, because it has been the result of increased efforts of the LGBT community to speak out and make their wishes known.
The LGBT community is small, compared to the headset, but still.. If you combine your forces, speak out in a reasonable manner, gather support for your wshes, the A-team can be persuaded to focus more of their limited time towards creating the poses to fill the gap that is now present. Be specific in your requests, gather support and show them that it is worth their while, if only to heighten customer satisfaction. It's something they've been trying to do with upgrading existing mf poses. I'd be happy to not have an upgrade of mf poses for a while, if they would concentrate on creating LGBT specific poses. but again, out your voice and wishes and have patience..
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Let's be honest. I think all of us (FM) will accept to wait for new poses and are happy for new poses for all other orientations. But what do we also do? We suggest new FM-poses, ask for new/better actions ih the existing ones and go and buy each new pose at once.
Are we mean? NO. It's because we are for FM.
You may call it thoughtlessness or simply habit.
Is there a way out? It depends on paying customers. I don't know if there are enough (homo) girls, shemales and gay men to buy the number of poses that the A-Team needs to get enough money to exist.
One idea: We all concentrate on poses that can be published for all genders, like bedtime, foreplay/after play, sm/bondage...
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Sorry Rukya, been awhile since I did Group play . .. I just counted the group poses under the women section .... I didn't really check what gender they all were ... It was really to show the differences of the number compared to the other groups to try and get my point across ...
I just think it would be nice, if the Achat Gods now concentrated on the basic poses and others for the minority groups for awhile so they can catch up and at least have a decent selection to play with .... The discrepancy is beyond fair now I feel...
It would also open up the interest more for these groups to join in too ..... How are you going to generate interest or maintain such members when the product is quite poor for them....
Come on Achat Gods, lots care about this site and want it to flourish and succeed. Give the other orientations a fair chance too.
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@Tight and Lover... there is that underlying reality... but too the costs of recent releases have been high... which would deplete funds from the economy... I think they are in a good position at the moment to release poses for the other orientations without dispruting much.
Though the others might squawk at this... new poses may be in fact measured for response... awaiting some sort of measurment before dedicating limited resources into developing poses for smaller groups which may not yield a profitable return. It's better that they focus on what these groups really want... and to me why this issue should be discusssed heavily as to what poses each group wants offered to them.
We have seen some good responses when that focus was made... and should not detract from the purpose there.
I encourage people to put their energy there and petition for the specifics...
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well, lets spend two words about this......
we know the majority of the users here are hetero and the one worst represented on the forum is the home one. in 10 months of achat i had seen several homo guys poping up in the forum but disappear after few days, so it can be logic to see really rare release for them. same can be say for shemale, there is just 3 or maybe 4 users who represent them.
In those last months, we had try to promote the forum, but at last we weren't able to increase the minority community of homo, sissy and lesbian, only the hetero is incresed! and this gonna influenze poll for new poses too, of course...a good step was made whit this last one creating diffent poll for LGTB and hetero, but at last LGBT have so much variable! If we can make this sistem more better and increase the speed for suggestion and voting time, maybe things gonna be better.
my 2 cents
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Just lately , Ive noticed and heard rumblings about the discrepancies in the number of poses available to the different orientations in this delightful game. So I thought I'd check them out myself in the shop...
FF have 34 poses ; FS have 35 poses ; FM have 75 poses F Group have 49 poses
SF have 35 poses ; SS have 17 poses ; SM have 30 poses ; S Group have 37 poses
MM have 17 poses ; M group have 47 poses
Quite frankly, As an MF user, I am embarrassed that the minority groups have so few poses and yet pay the same subscription as myself. I know, its a question of money and this is a business .. but MF have over twice the amount of anyone else and the S & M orientations lack of poses is appauling.
In the last poll, my "bedtime" pose won, well I just feel it wouldnt be fair for us to have anymore poses at the moment ... and I ask the Achat Gods to concentrate on the minority orientations...
I can work with the poses we have as I'm sure most of the MF can, and I believe its time now to give the others a fair crack of the whip. You can still make money from the clothes in the shop etc...
It will also encourage more of the minority groups to join the game and I'm sure as your poses come out, they will sell well in the groups concerned.
For me, I dont think I can buy any more MF poses until I feel there's a fairer playing ground for all orientations.
Taking care and showing support for each other in this game is important too. I hope you take notice of someone who plays regular on here. Thank you.
I congratulate you on your approach to offer research data, as well as your personal objectivity. Let me first offer he comment that it takes a tolerant and introspective person that is willing to investigate inequality, especially when it is outside their personal preferences. If society were amenable to your approach we might have less prejudice and moral outrage, but that is a discussion for another day.
Returning to your central point, assuming your math is valid, there is a clear imbalance in poses as an opportunity for enjoyment by certain groups. You have offered data to illustrate this. I assume by your surprise that you went into the project with a null hypothesis, and the goal of disproving it. At least you used a research methodology instead of the conjecture and emotional "raging against the night" that I usually see.
In my opinion, ACHAT owes you a considered and well-thought out response. NOT vague references to "economic viability" or "cost shifting of funds from hetero to LGBT poses"
Your effort deserves an answer containing financial data. A thorough cost analysis that helps the people that actually pay the bills (you and me) MAKE AN INTELLIGENT DECISION.
Again, I applaud you for your efforts. I happen to personally agree with you, but as a former business consultant for the SBA, I want to see some PROOF from ACHAT to support their assumption that continued inequality of pose orientations translates to good business. For example, I need to be convinced that a simple modification of the "69' pose from MF to MM is cost prohibitive.
Successful businesses not only do marketing analyses, "focus groups", etc, but they LISTEN to them and act upon the objective data.
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I don't doubt there is a good deal of expense that goes into development here. All I'm asking for now is a little fairness. The MF poses have all they need at this point for everyone to have a good time with hetrosexual sex. The two main addtions lately are the Swing and The Glory Hole. Neither one of these is necessary relative to the need for improved and added posses for those interested in LGBT. When I see things like the two last additions, any excitement about them is quickly over run by a feeling of being left out when I want to play with other women.
It's just not fair. :(
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@hb... the shemale community HAS grown... we see numerous posts, although not regular... but more and more input coming from them.
@Christy I have never ever seen a multiple release of a pose for all orientations done at once. The reason has never been disclosed... all I can offer is speculation why. The time is clear though a push again is needed to respond for attention. As I did before... I do so again... Be active in voice of which of those poses you want to see adapted ... and let them know, by rallying support in the appropriate threads.
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This is just an idea.
Maybe y'all ought to start a petition. Make up some sort of form about developing more of the poses for the orientation you want them to work on. Get all your friends and folks that agree with it to put their name on it. We all have a network, right?
I supposed it could backfire though, if only a handful of folks agree to put their name on it. I mean, out of all the members on the site there are only a few of us who visit this place. So that should be considered too.
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hmmm i think the rentability is not a totally good argumentation to explain the favorisation of poses for one orientation . I mean if it was , the site will just have to be only hétéro .
Like MF , others orientations are paying their membership even if they are less in number . So they have right to the same fun as the majority .
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We have severals polls for poses, clothes, rooms...
What I have done long time ago was a poll about the next update at all... Should we start a poll "Which orientation shall get the next update?"
Everyone is allowed to bring up his/her friends to this forum and vote.
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We have severals polls for poses, clothes, rooms...
What I have done long time ago was a poll about the next update at all... Should we start a poll "Which orientation shall get the next update?"
Everyone is allowed to bring up his/her friends to this forum and vote.
While this is certainly one attempt at being "fair", a "democratic vote" approach always inherently favors the majority. If I may suggest an alternative approach, have everyone vote on the ten MOST favorite poses in FM, then if anatomically feasible, go back and make sure they are adapted to every orientation. This would help us catch up on the discrepancy, and give all orientations access to the perceived best poses.
As a second step toward progress, when the discrepancy between orientations is mitigated, set the development of future poses to ROTATE between all orientations. For example,
FM, then FF, then MM, then SF, then, SM, etc. etc. Now, before someone criticizes me on the order let me state that I don't really care. Let ACHAT management put it in order of best financial return-on-investment. It the CONCEPT of rotation that I am advocating, which would prevent three or four FM poses being developed before any other orientation got a chance.
PS If you are the type of person that is prone to the negative, please don't focus on the flaws of my suggestions. Instead, please use your creativity to suggest viable options, rather than "watersporting" my humble ideas. ;D
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the rotation way there was before half june was good (FM then FF/FS then SM/SS then MM) there was a regular arrival of poses for all orientations . But it have changed . All we can hope , is that the next pose we will have will be a good one (not the suspender one or the glory hole one . But its my personnal though ;D some maybe like them )
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I like the rotation idea, perhaps each orientation can make a list of the poses they most want converted from the MF to theirs with the appropriate variations and improvements. Then maybe come up with new pose ideas for their particular field of play.
At least, this will give the Achat Gods an idea, if feasible , of what release the next orientation in line wants and get things moving along abit.
If we all work together, I reckon we could make this work and ensure some groups arn't disgruntled or feel they are being overlooked.
May I be as bold to say .. leave the MF section alone for a bit, concentrate on FF, MM, SS, MS, SF poses so they can catch up and enjoy the game as much as we do.
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the better place to post our new wanted poses , is in "share your creatives ideas" if we post them in our own section they are not seen .
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Hummm, I have to wonder if this is why I felt a pull back to the AChat Forums... a "Disturbance in the force." if you will.
For a very long time I was one of the few who couldn't play in the "HetSet" which was the term I coined for those men and women who were either heterosexual or bisexual, and could therefore enjoy the FM poses.
Which is an important factor in this, while we set our orientation in our profile it has no practical effect beyond the search function. So to the AChat Gods, I am not a lesbian, I am just someone who chooses only to have sex with women.
I think that "choice" is part of their view on it. I"m guessing their take is that I chose only to use only certain poses, but to them that would be my "choice".
So as far as my being charged the same as a "HetSet" user to AChat it would be because I am "choosing" to use their service in a limited fashion, but unless they would build in restrictions (which I would be cool with) I could theoretically pay for a lesbian account, and then start rooming with guys.
(Not to mention I HAVE dome FFM with guys who understand they don't get to touch me.)
As far as acceptable responses, it's tough. When I first came here all there was, was the sound and furry approach and it was netting no results. When I came in with the more measured, logical reasoning approach we had some truly wonderful gains.
But the vets here can attest that more then a few of the bigger changes to the Forum, and Game, and getting actual responses from the AChat Gods came from getting angry, and letting them know it.
So perhaps we should control any frustration we feel, but not hide it?
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Another loud cry from the forum wouldn't be bad... all I would add is lets hit them with some specfic requests which might bear something the groups actually want.
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I'm not sure if the A-Team really is listening to the forum when it comes about poses for a special gender. For a long time you, Janine, have been the only lesbian woman here. So Adera was for shemales. All of us accepted, and much more supported, your wishes for more poses and special actions. They increased the number of poses for lesbians and shemales suddenly but now, as the number of lesbian and shemals raised, they stopped.
Homo men got almost nothing in this time.
I don't say it's right, but it seems to me (I didnt check it) the number of "Het Sets"and bi-sexual women raised and they simply earn more money.
If I'm right, we have to think about how to give you a voice. One idea could be to stop votings and suggestions for hetero poses for ... 3 months and just suggest, ask and vote for other orientations in this time.
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Uhmmm.....Lover, your idea can be used for the next (when it come!) poll about new poses: we can not subscrive new hetero pose, just LGBT and, if all agree, creat free poll: homo, lesbo and shemale.
And what about if we don't ask for clothes for some months!? we have our designer who can work on them and on the long list we had create in the past, so......
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That is the main reason why I've been so involved in the designing (besides the fact that I love doing it). If the dev-team isn't designing clothes, they can focus on the other things the forum is asking for. Maybe it is the summer holidays for them at the moment and they don't have a full staff available. I hope that in september, more poses for the lgbt community will be released
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lover , i dont thing your idea could work . Even if we vote only for LGBT poses , nothing can stop dev team if they want adapt it for MF first
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You have a point, Rukya.
But recently, i had see released lot of the poses suggested in the past months and some good upgrade (not all requested by us, but really wellcome!). So, if we start to ask for LGBT pose and stop whit the MF ones, maybe we have more chance.
Never give up, Paddle Queen!
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its the problem , i dont think miracles exist . Maybe the next update will be for one or two (depending of witch) lgbt orientations , but it will surely be followed by more mf poses before we have (lgbt) another one for one or two orientation(s) .
Its like if the LGBT dev team was on vacation july and august . Did MF dev team never take vacations ? Are they cyborgs ? Come on MF dev team take hollydays and let the place to LGBT dev team .
and about the idea of lover in the poll for MF poses , wrong way to resolve it . As i said in my previous post here , MF dev team can still adapt any poses that will be voted for LGBT .
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@ Rukya
and about the idea of lover in the poll for MF poses , wrong way to resolve it . As i said in my previous post here , MF dev team can still adapt any poses that will be voted for LGBT .
If we always think so no poll ever is necessary. They always can do what they want - it's their decision bc it's their company. But our votes show them about the wishes of (some paying) members. And they have listened to our wishes so we shall go on.
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I dont say that we dont need poll :) , i just say that its no use to make one only for LGBT poses cause MF will always (quasi) have it first ;)
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Not so true, Rukya.....if the pose is requested for LGBT orientation, dev-team MUST release it for that specific orientation first, then they can convert it for others, if they want.
just my opinion, of course!
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the only pose who was made for FF first in one year , was the at the wall one . So i'm not sure that dev team pay attention on witch orientation ask the poses . ;)
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Have hope, Rukya......come on!
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As of now it's 11.5 weeks since FF had their last pose, I got the SF version of that pose at the same time... though since then I've at least got the MS Against the Wall 5.5 weeks ago.
Still... this is so boooooring... and even more so for lesbians.
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like you say :) and boring is really less to the reality . Its 3 weeks i didnt room for this reason .
Just log in the game and look for friends to chat . But i dont want pay for just chatting so i will surely stop my premium membership
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I have taken the liberty of listing all the MF poses so that the different orientations can check them out and see what poses are fitting of their groups and which would not work.
Perhaps if the LGBT ( Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender ) community could check them out here and voice their opinion on each, going down the list, then we can be more focused on what poses we are fighting for, for each group. ( Pantiless Friday Protest )
The Achat Gods would then be better equipped and efficient on which poses to work on in the rotation idea expressed earlier in the thread.
The appropriate chosen poses can then be highlighted in the relevant Topic for that group in an attempt to broaden the basic playing field and improve their play and experience.
WE can then be specific and focussed on what needs doing.
We need to get organised, work together and express our needs here. I know it maybe a little time consuming but in the end , I’m sure our goal can be achieved.
Apathy in any of the groups won’t change things & will also show the Achat Gods... it’s not worth bothering with after all. So fight for your cause... some of us are really trying here. ;D
1 Clothed foreplay 6 Pole Dance
2 Bed Foreplay 7 Pampered Man
3 Slow Dance 8 Lets Talk
4 Lap Dance 9 Pampered female
5 Gentle Foreplay 10 69 Sideways
11 69 16 Wheel Barrow
12 Doggy Style 17 Handjob & Anal stimulation
13 Masturbation 18 Licking from behind
14 Missionary 19 Flexy Girl
15 Girl From Behind 20 Riding the face
21 Standing Blowjob 26 Crab
22 Sitting blowjob 27 Legs Up
23 Play with Boobs 28 Reverse Cowgirl
24 Fuck Tits 29 Lying on man bed
25 Kneeling Boy 30 Head to Feet
31 Spoons 36 Kneeling Spoons
32 Kneeling Rider 37 Lucky Licker
33 Surprise from behind 38 Sex Gymnastics
34 Bridge 39 Mouth Fuck
35 Naughty Siesta 40 Sex Gymnastics 2
41 Woman Controls 46 Kneeling lovers
42 69 Sideways 47 Side Rider
43 Under the Cock 48 Deep Impact
44 Erotic Spanking 49 Forced Doggy
45 Smothering 50 Hot Seat
51 Knees Up 56 Sitting Joy
52 Fuck mouth 57 Obedience 2
53 Fisting 58 Lick seat
54 Obedience 59 Hanging Beauty
55 Handcuffed 60 Punished Boy
61 Deep Throat 66 At the wall
62 Lift Your Leg 67 Lick me quickly
63 Punished Girl 68 Dominated from behind
64 Handjob from behind 69 Clit Rubbing
65 Love Carrier 70 Sex Rodeo
71 Anal Doggy 74 Sex Swing
72 Against The Wall 75 Glory Hole
73 Hot Legs & Feet 76 Sitting Doggy
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Wow, Bee....really a great work! And long to, i suppose.....well done!
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now let see with ones are missing for us :
Lets Talk
69 Sideways
Girl From Behind
Wheel Barrow
Licking from behind
PLAY WITH BOOBS
Kneeling Boy(surely adaptable)
Legs Up
Reverse Cowgirl
Lying on man bed ( adaptable )
Head to Feet
Spoons
Kneeling Spoons
Kneeling Rider
Lucky Licker
Surprise from behind
Bridge
Naughty Siesta
Sex Gymnastics 2
Smothering
KNEELING LOVERS
Side Rider
Deep Impact
Hot Seat
Knees Up
Obedience
Sitting Joy
Obedience 2
Lick seat
Hanging Beauty
Lift Your Leg
Love Carrier
Lick me quickly
Hot Legs & Feet
Sitting Doggy
Now , every body can see the importance of the difference in the number of poses between MF and FF ( and i dont putted the ones like fuck mouth etc ... ).
And the difference is bigger for MM and SS
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Thats great Rukya, Thank you for your imput , thats what we need ... ok the ones Rukya has listed are the FF's poses we are fighting for on Pantiless Friday .... Lets get the Gay & Transgender ones sorted now.
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Brandy, as always you did a great job. All we het sets can do is offering our support for each other - and we do. Each member here, no matter about the preference, is fighting and supporting. But it's much more important the A-Team recognizes more voices of homo women and men and shemales.
YOU have to go and give us your wishes and ideas, then we can be with you!
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GREAT LOVE IT
what a great new pose with the St Andrew's cross
BUT
Here it comes what about the guy on the cross and the lady in control
Come on DEV team be fear and sort it out let us boys get to feel the leather on our backs to
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surely the next pose update tango
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now let see with ones are missing for us :
Lets Talk
69 Sideways
Girl From Behind
Wheel Barrow
Licking from behind
PLAY WITH BOOBS
Kneeling Boy(surely adaptable)
Legs Up
Reverse Cowgirl
Lying on man bed ( adaptable )
Head to Feet
Spoons
Kneeling Spoons
Kneeling Rider
Lucky Licker
Surprise from behind
Bridge
Naughty Siesta
Sex Gymnastics 2
Smothering
KNEELING LOVERS
Side Rider
Deep Impact
Hot Seat
Knees Up
Obedience
Sitting Joy
Obedience 2
Lick seat
Hanging Beauty
Lift Your Leg
Love Carrier
Lick me quickly
Hot Legs & Feet
Sitting Doggy
The new chair pose
the cross pose
Now , every body can see the importance of the difference in the number of poses between MF and FF ( and i dont putted the ones like fuck mouth etc ... ).
And the difference is bigger for MM and SS
added the two last who was made without their true names cause i dont know them and i will not do efforts to find them
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surely the next pose update tango
LETS HOPE SO RUKYA
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did yo know what i really like to see guys!? tha march poll winner released.....tell me if i am wrong, but no one of them was: no collars, no piercing....and same for the poses!
i know dev-team have scheduled their releases, but please.......give them to us!
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YES HB
COLLARS AND PIERCINGS
DID WIN so lets hope we get them soon Kiss Kiss
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surely the next pose update tango
LETS HOPE SO RUKYA
LETS HOPE NOT YOU MEAN
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I too have not roomed or anything for at least a month now. Sad really missing so many poses for LGBT and now seeing 3 MF poses getting added in a row is just too much so I highly doubt I will stay much longer in AChat.
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I'm asking myself if i must stay or leave achat too .
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Rukya, if it's a joke, it's not nice, my friend......it will be really sad to lost you! same for everyone!
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i'm not decided yet , but if this continue the way it take actually , i will surely not renew my premium membership and erase achat from my computer .
Its no use to pay for only others have good things , and without being premium , this site is boring after 1 week .
So if i dont renew my membership , i see no interest to stay in game
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i really hope you will stay, my friend! You can be dangerous when you are walking around with your paddle (btw, ever think to try it on the dev-team!? ;D) but it's nice to see you anyway.
Stay, Rukya, please.....
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HB, Adera , all other orientations... how about checking out the MF poses , like Rukya has, to name the ones you would like converting so we know for Pantiless Fridays.
Together , we can campaign & High light better what we are asking for...
If we can get the basics sorted, we can all start on new poses then ... just a thought ...
You got my backing ;D
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this will not work , as dev team have really few words in its vocabular . They know only MF poses and clothes
they dont mind pantless friday or nude saturday or any others days .
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Rukya, you are probably right on all the line, but i think try can't be so wrong!
And to make you know.....just renew my annual subscription couse, at last, even i can say update are not that good recently for LGBT, there are some friends (some free!) i'd like to meet again. and i bet it's the same for everyone, here, even for you, Rukya!
so please, try to calm down......it will be really sad to see you banned!
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Have faith Rukya, If we keep asking and high lighting what we want to improve the game, they will take notice in the end.
If you are too negative, people will just see you as whining and not take you seriously. If we channel our thoughts in a positive way, naming the problem and finding a solution, they will eventually see its for the good of the game to keep members happy & interested ok?
You are an active member of Forum & we need more people like you to improve the game ... just dont give up... you have lots of support here.
Achat Gods ... Please take note of this post . We need more orientations to join and stay. The reason you are losing gay members is the lack of interesting poses and the boring factor. Quite frankly I cant blame them compared to our MF.
You are causing members to turn away instead of improving and expanding the game here. Please return to the rotation method. We are happy we have enough in the MF section at the moment. PLEASE CONCENTRATE ON FF, SS, & MM basic poses so they have a fair playing field here.
Its not fair at the moment and its obvious for everyone to see. Dont let this opportunity to expand escape you. Please listen to your members.
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You are causing members to turn away instead of improving and expanding the game here. Please return to the rotation method. We are happy we have enough in the MF section at the moment. PLEASE CONCENTRATE ON FF, SS, MM, SF & MS basic poses so they have a fair playing field here.
just to mention all......
Ok, funny things are over........seriously, we need to level the gap in pose. I mean, there is no need to release 50 poses for MM, MS, SS, SF & FF now, just a pretty amount of them with good option (no dildo for FF, when it's not needed!)
@Brandy: yes, you are right, we have to do it and we gonna do it, when more people are back.
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For me it mostly feels like I pay money so the MF can get even more poses as if they dont have enough already and we get almost nothing so I dont blame Rukya for feeling so negative about the whole thing. I left AChat 2 years ago because there simply was not enough poses for LGBT and now seeing almost the same thing 2 years later its hard not to feel negative specially when they keep making new MF poses while the LGBT are missing so many poses. And yes it does feel like the Dev team does not care much about the LGBT and only focus on the MF so like I said its hard not to feel all negative.
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Slut, I know its frustrating. It's why I started this Topic.
So leaving didnt sort the problem, so lets try and rally support, the more members who voice their concerns about the unfairness of the number of poses for the different orientations the more the Achat Gods are likely to listen.
Tell your friends, get them posting here... make this the biggest partition ever in the history of Achat... you have a lot of support from the heteros ..
Encourage your friends to join the PANTILESS FRIDAY campaign.
ACHAT GODS, PLEASE BRING BACK THE ROTATION SYSTEM AND LET THE MINORITY MEMBERS HAVE MF POSES CONVERTED TO THEIR ORIENTATIONS. TY.
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it will be nice too that our designers ( tight , jeanona , marilyn , az and keiko ) continue to do what they do , but hmmm how say ...... little slowly .
I mean now you are 5 designers and each time you propose an outfit , we have it in maximum one month . So as long as you will give the oportunity to dev team to make clothes as fast , we will not be furnished in others things . Oh and if you could concentrate on men clothes too cause its really bad to have new women clothes each weeks
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i want to support this request of Rukya.......tight , jeanona , marilyn , az and keiko, did yo think you can do this as a biggest support for the LGBT!?
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The question is - what is the biggest support for LBGT? If the colthes our desingers creat are sold well the A-Team earns enough money (it's their business we may not forget it). Perhaps they are able to concentrate on the minority then...
Or they look which MF poses are sold most and create them for other orientations - though I doubt you can compare it one to one.
It's easy to say for me let's wait until autumn. But I suggest to do.
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I was thinking on another solution....if Tight & co. can have the chance to work on ALL the maps, they can work on our request or poll winner and leave to dev-team the time to work on poses for LGBT and threesome (what about the gang bang!? an year had passed from the first announce of them!) and, naturally, on some new 3d model of clothes we don't have, but this last one can be make a little slowly from them!
And honestly......if dev-team plan to release a pose (or an upgrade for esisting one) for more orientation, i think it's better havce them in the same time and not delaied in 2 or 3 week
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2 or 3 week ?
you mean 2 or 3 years . I could list the poses where the MF have more moves than FF or FS and who was made last year
i think at flexy girl , sex gymnastic , or crab for the olders i remember when will we have these updates ?
@lover : What you say is what we said when dev team proposed this tool ( the clothes editor ) and what is the result ? there is more clothes made and less poses . Its easyer for them , they just take the templates and put them in the base for the concerned clothe . It take lets say 10 minutes to be done . And they dont do more poses for this.
If i had know at the time they proposed us this , i will had not support the idea .
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2 or 3 week ?
It was just an example.....i know they do it with longest wait for us!
Now......let's try to find a constructive way to point out our reclamation! First of all, it will be really glad to know something about this "gap" of poses from the administrator: sorry if i say this, but i think it's time they clarify their position about those problem! Which project have the dev-team to solve this situation!? maybe they don't care more about LGBT community (i hope it's not true!) but they must give them a clear answer for the future: is there the hope too see soon some good release for them and less (let's say 1 at month and half) for hetero!?
This are all things who can make LGBT users stay or leave......time for playing around it's over for most of them!
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as you say , in 2 or 3 weeks the time for my renew will come , and this time i will have choice to do it or not . so if i see no changes or have no clear anwser from the staff , i will surely leave .
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Same here I will be leaving when my subscription ends if we dont get any answer or anything from the Dev team and most of my friends are already gone or have not been in AChat for months now and I miss them all so much but there is not much I can do about that right now so yes I will be most likely leaving too (again) if we get nothing from the Dev team.
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I ask you all to stay - even if you don't renew your membership you can go on as free user until you see some good progress.
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sorry lover , but if i dont renew , i will erase the game from my pc and just continue ( maybe ) to post here if i'm still able .
Even if i become free member , it will make me more and more angry to see every weeks heteros have poses
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Aww, come on Rukya.....you are angry for the release, not with your friends! I echo lover....stay! Same for Lust and the others!
There is no way we all make you run away so easily! This is a nice community, born thanks to AChat (that's right!) but everyone here had made it grown better! Of course, there was some argue during this last year, but at least they help to set various things.....and i think it's something absolutely normal!
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And here is the answer from them, another new MF pose today. Do I need to say more?
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Now i really hate them >:( >:(
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And do you hate me too Cherie?
My life will be poorer if you leave us.......
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No i hate nobody here , just these stupid Machos of the dev team .
They can get their stupid poses , and flood the poor heteros who really need one pose each week
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Why even bother anymore. They never read this forum and they dont look at us LGBT orientation as equals to hetero or anyone else and in their blind eyes we are worth nothing only the heteros are.
Not to mention they have no idea about business as they would have had so many more members and so much more income had they not been all blind and their heads stuck so deep up into hetero orientation ass that it comes back out from their throat, there I said it and I could not care less what they think of it.
MF have so many poses now that they barely even use half of it while others have almost no decent poses and still they make more MF poses 2 each week to be more precise.
Enough is enough...
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Especially the new pose for MF is not really new. We have something similar and some actions could have been added. I just hope (yes, i am an incurable optimist) they made something they easily can adapt to ther genders.
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they can get them poses and their clothes too .
Now i'm only in the forum and no more in the game
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I really have to bite my lip not to act out.. This thread and others were to comment on poses, not make this a place to dump discontent. There might be others that are enthousiastic about poses and are not familair with the lack of poses for LGBT. For them reading these threads and comments will not be a pleasure. Playing devil's advocate, reading some of the less respectful posts, I can imagine that within the dev-team, the feeling of haste or urge to comply to the wishes presented here, to be non existant. I am sorry if I have stepped on toes while expressing my opinion.
Probably sounding like a broken record, I am after all an oldie here on forum, presenting your wishes in a well-described manner has had the biggest succes. I understand there is a lot of frustration, as part of the headset, I don't suffer from that as the lgbt commnity does. I do think that frustration should be outed, made known to the developers. They must know there is a need for LGBT poses and like Lover I keep hoping they will bring out all the suggested modifications of existing poses, as well as bring out the new proposed poses.
Please let your personal frustration not ruin the fun for others. There is always the support link in the forum where you can send your suggestions, complaints to the dev-team directly. That is something they WILL read, while they may ignore these threads on forum. This is more or less a public forum and a lot of people make us of it. I am not saying be quiet and be patient, I am saying consider the people you share the forum with and express yourself accordingly.
In the meantime I urge the development team to say something about the matter publically. The frustration of not knowing wether there are developments concerning LGBT poses is growing higher and I can imagine some people not finding their membership worth prolongiing. As others have said, I would be happy to see a series of LGBT poses exclusively and not have MF/headset poses for a while. Understanding that might make a dent in the income of the game, but convinced that would be temporarily as membership growth will balance that in the future..
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i dont understand all what you write tight .
Are you asking from us to thanks the dev team to dont make poses for us ?
Or are you saying that they do a great job ?
Sorry to ask , but i dont understand the meaning line of your post so see no offence if i misinterpret it .
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Tight asks the A-Team to tell us about their plans - and he also hopes they will add more poses for LBGT.
And he asks to use this topic for what it's made for - poses.
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I'm so glad what I can see, dev-team is working on poses for LGBT .
Forgive me if it seems that I do not have time for my friends of different sexual orientation.
I may not have time here in the forum but I certainly try to give my voice in personal message to dev-team.
My only. maybe a little idealistic ideas, is that we can alll be, at least here, equal.
What i want to say i'ts - so nice when you realize someone is listening here, someone following our desires and that someone is our A-chat dev-team.
So be patient and positive my friends and please don't be a meain - and do not be so critical, sometimes it's good to remember how much we were looking for and how much is given to us.
With all my respect for all of you my friends ..
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I'm so glad what I can see, dev-team is working on poses for LGBT .
and i'm glad to see you around after long time Jeanona! a big hug for you, where ever you are in this moment!
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Well I'm always happy to come back here and to see the dear familiar faces. Thank you HB for your kind words.
Hug you back my dear friend. :-* :-*
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A lot of my friends have left this game and im thinking of doing the same
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That's sad, Lydia....hope you change your mind!
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I have a few months to go on my prem and i make my mind up then HB, I have be to other sites and this is like the poor preson site, what i love to see is a room like the Bar & Grill, and if they say it cant be do, well i have see it on other site where you can have up to 100 people in 1 room and you have music from Capital FM playing, so i think its up to Achat to do something like this to keeps us
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I understand what you say.....i'm the first one who like to have a big room to meet all of you there, but it seems like this is not the politic of AChat at the moment. Hope one day they gonna change their mind!
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i dont think achat have a room like this in the near future .
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I agree Ruyka... I think Achat has to develope it's self as a different option rather than follow and "be like" others.
Achat is oriented towards smaller more intimate encounters... not a large social; scene. It's strength is the graphics.
That said it could benefit from a universal chat mode... I am still ncler what the deifficulties were when that short experiment was employed a couple years back. It would take constant monitoring... but I think the team has plenty of bodies here who might assist or volunteer to become ingame monitors.. maybe in some form of minor compensation.
The site needs to focus on equalizing poses across the orientations... and creating more room environments first... then focus a means of a broader chat thread.
Diverse rooms will help in eliminating the boredom which sometimes arrives here. and lend it self to those who enjoy mixing RP with the sexual escapdes.
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I see what your saying, but i think Achat will miss out, A lot of people ask me how to get to the Bar & Grill thinking its a room, and im not ask Achat to do the same as the redlight game,all i like is just 1 room where we all could meet.But i cant see it happening. So i think i will be leaving like a lot of my friends have done.
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Infact i don't want room for 100 or more users at the same time....something small, let say 20 can be a good and reasonable number. You all know how many times we start some discussion here who run for days before we reach our goal. well, that can be done in a multiple chat and thanks to the log text in the client, it can be easy posted here for the one who are not able to take part of it.
And at last, meeting lot of friend isn't part of the game it self!? i can be wrong, but not at all, i think!
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I think your wrong I have made a lot of friends on here it could be a gril thing,,,,,, lol
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Though I like the idea of big chat room we have to accept: This is not what AChat is made for. HB is right. As the software is made, sex oriented and just a small chat window, it would be a mess if there are 8,15,20 or 50 people in room.
Just look at the bar now. It's funny and almost each new member joins (and obviously it's known "outside" the forum in game) it's becoming confusing for the new and also for some older members.
So in my opinion before they make it they had to change the whole system. Perhaps a "room" without any interieur, just one big chat window.
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'Lover' I have be in games where there is 50 in a room and i can tell you its not a mess,all i say is look at the replies the Bar & Grill gets. how think if thats was a room anyway you would not have 50 people chatting to each other. All i can say to you go and look at other games like achat
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first kick out the interactive environment... and focus on the chat function. It should be doable... espcially on a global scale in game.
Likewise I rarely found it confusing on other sites other than having to switch back and forth in windows... being able to switch on and off the global chatter would be the only issue.
The ability to create personalized temporary channels would be a plus... to name it and share the channel name for access, hence creating a small amount of control about who accesses it. One could name a channel, "the bar thread"... it remains active as long as someone is in it.... That too I have seen done in other games.
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lol you would have to have everyone free to talk in a global chat on here hehe or the people in the rooms would have to change chat some too
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'Lover' I have be in games where there is 50 in a room and i can tell you its not a mess,all i say is look at the replies the Bar & Grill gets. how think if thats was a room anyway you would not have 50 people chatting to each other. All i can say to you go and look at other games like achat
i play others games where there is massive chat possibilities , and trust me , its really sometimes truely comfusing . When some peoples (like me) , who have only 2 fingers to write what they have to say , dont look the screen before have finish to write all they want to say , its hard to follow a conversation .
Personnaly i like achat cause its just not like this game . And as said bear , the strenght of achat are graphics .
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its all the same,Ahat will do what they want not what we want,
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Covems did a nice research job on Achats response to the forum... it yielded some very surprising results that the forum has has seen success in generating ideas actually used. Ture though Achat will do what it wants,... as any site will.
I find it disturbing only that the developers drifted from their path in balanced releases back to a heavy MF laden offering.
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Think we taking this as far as we can Bear'
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s Mod's are powers are rather limited,... the best we can do atm is what we agreed in accoradance, that the next round of pose suggestions submitted are totally void of MF requests. I would hope the LBGT community take this moment and flood the idea section with ideas,,, and viewpoints of new positions,... and adaptions.
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I see we have in rooms a place call the Mediterranean Terrace.I like that but its over 1000AG think i have to find a Sugar Daddy lol.. it would be nice to have a few place outside like a woods, that kind of thing,
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i had seen it in the shop......honestly, i dunno how this room is (please, someone who had buy it add screen please!) but for sure it's the second room with the highest price.
I can be interessing in buying it, but i'd like to have more impression of it...Az wasn't satisfed with it (had she deleted her post!?), so i'll gonna wait a little!
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AZ wasn't happy with the roo.. The reason is she has bought it and saw me on... invited me for a quick look at it. But I had not updated yet and we both saw an ugly room, similar to one of the exisiting free rooms. I thought she was teasing me... she didnt though.
We both thought the A-Team is kissing us, selling an existing room for such a price...
We decided to start the topic you have read... then I read the new "Tattler" and noticed something is wrong. I bought it and had a quick check with my sweetheart and can say it's beautiful. But it's very expensive... So back to AZ post, it was me who deleted it when I noticed the "mistake". Of course I messaged Az.
I start a new topic, adding a poll...
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I saw the post... and picked up the room to see if I could follow her complaints about the cams. When I came back to check the post ,... the thread had disappearred.
My first impression was that it was a beautiful romantic setting. I could have gone for a darker edge of the lighting... maybe some torches to had really set the mood. Still find it an exotic and nice add. Price is steep... but...
I'll check it out later when not so rushed... and hope to test the tone of the room.
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Share your impression with us, Bear....i'm interessed in that room!
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personnaly , seeing the pic in the achat tattler , i find wery strange to have a bed here . I mean , who put a bed in a garden ?
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got it cause i like the nature aspect but haven't found anyone to just room and look at it with me since i'm not up to playing right now
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posted them under this thread:
http://www.funnyadultgamesplay.com/forum/index.php/topic,1987.0.html
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Here's a good question.
Why were we (t-girls) never given the "let's talk" poses other than with the males? We should be able to have them with the girls, or other t-girls as well.
Also, here's an old one. In the spanking pose, males can spank shemales, females can spank shemales, shemales can only spank other shemales. Shemales cannot spank females or males. Why is this?
I often get requests from some of my female & male lovers to dominate them, only to be dissapointed with the realization that we cannot spank them. Yes, there are other ways to play this out, but the over the lap spanking is a classic dominating pose, which all should be able to enjoy.
Is this the Achat programmers way of saying that we (shemales) should be punished for being who we are or something? My words may be a bit harsh, but this is what I feel. I spend plenty of time & money on this site, & I feel that what is happening as far as poses in an injustice to the LBGT community. :'(.
Now I do understand that we are the minority of users, compared to those looking for MF relationships, but we pay the exact same fees for membership.
Also, the poses I mentioned in this post are pretty standard, & should be available for all. :)
Kisses,
Stephanie
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same thing we can say about the first foreplay pose......they had update the female-male and shemale-male and now it's really a good pose! what about the other orientation!? >:(
really hope we gonna have this update soon!
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This is one thing I never will understand. In my opinion it should be easy to add these poses for everyone. No special actions, just replacing one avatar.
Without investing much time and money they would get benefit. Strange...
Let's hope you'll get these poses soon.
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This is one thing I never will understand. In my opinion it should be easy to add these poses for everyone. No special actions, just replacing one avatar.
Without investing much time and money they would get benefit. Strange...
Let's hope you'll get these poses soon.
Lover, thank you for your kind support as always :-*, but I highly doubt this will ever happen. The spanking pose is the oldest one. They'd have done it by now if they ever intended to :'(. And the talking one is also an older one :(. I hope, but I sadly doubt they will update.
Kisses,
Stephanie
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hmmm the talking pose have less than one year ( maybe less than 6 months ) , so i dont think it can be considered as an older pose ;D
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Greetings Rukya,
It's always a pleasure to hear from you ;D. You are right, those talking poses are not even a year old, so my description of referring to them as older poses was incorrect :-[. But the way I see it, had the programmers intended for us (SS, SF) to have these, one would think they would have given them to us shortly after the MS & MF one's were created. I do not see the programmers going back to revisit this :'(.
Also, with regard to the lying on the bed pose, MF & MS got new updated actions, kissing, hugging, etc. None of these were updated for SS or SF either :'(.
Very sad if you look at the big picture and see what's happening out here with this :(.
Just My Two Cents.......
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yes i agree , but look : The upgrade of the erotic spanking was made in november last year for FF and FS and they made it for FM and SM last week ;)
But anyway , i'm sure there is many poses upgrade that we ( LGBT ) will never have . And to me , the cause is clear : its not with ONE pose upgrade a year that we will be able to have them
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Here's a good question.
Why were we (t-girls) never given the "let's talk" poses other than with the males? We should be able to have them with the girls, or other t-girls as well.
Also, here's an old one. In the spanking pose, males can spank shemales, females can spank shemales, shemales can only spank other shemales. Shemales cannot spank females or males. Why is this?
I often get requests from some of my female & male lovers to dominate them, only to be dissapointed with the realization that we cannot spank them. Yes, there are other ways to play this out, but the over the lap spanking is a classic dominating pose, which all should be able to enjoy. :'(.
Kisses,
Stephanie
Aww Steph, I <3 you. I have been vocal in my efforts to get this to happen too. xxx
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Bumping this topic up as I still feel its important and for a plea to the Achat Gods to seriously consider that poses are released for all the genders on a rotational basis
If you get the basic poses for all genders, it will be more likely attract players, stop the feelings of being treated unfairly & encourage people to stay.
May I suggest releases for genders as follows :- ( Hope all the genders combinations are covered )
1 MF ,
2 MS,
3 SM,
4 FS,
5 SF,
6 SS,
7 FF,
8 MM,
9 MMF ,
10 MFF ,
11 SMM,
12 SFF,
13 SSM,
14 SSF,
15 SSS,
16 FFF,
17 MMM
18. MFS. ( ty Sexi )
Maybe to assist in the cost , clothing can be released at the same as the less popular genders to offset any losses... but I would like to add, in the long run, the more poses on offer, the more likely it is , the clientelle for the game will build.
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Aggreeing with Brandy here. Ive been on for a while here and although i love getting to spend time with people, the options for not only poses but clothing and surroundings is minimal at best when compared wih other sites. (Which will remain nameless). Although I appreciate the work that the AChat staff does to support the site, I do believe that a few upgrades are n order. More poses, yes. Not even Sex ones actually if one takes into consideration my terrible need to snuggle the hell out of my spouse. Clothing, hairstyles, eye colors, etc would also be a good addition. Or perhaps a room where more than 2-3 people can actually have a conversation. Just a few suggestions.
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@BB
Perhaps I don't understand. I assumed you were suggesting a schedule of 17 (pose) releases and, perhaps erroneously, that this would eventually resolve the difference in the number of poses across genders. However, it still appears to give m 9, f 9 and s 10, across a 17 release period, which doesn't seem to change anything (much). However, I must admit that , if you say a MM keeps two m's happy and a SSS keeps three s's happy for example then the ratio of m 14, f 14, s 15 does, I guess, keep a slightly higher proportion of s's happy. Oh haven't you missed out FM btw?
TS said...
Or perhaps a room where more than 2-3 people can actually have a conversation.
I agree. You tend to meet more new friends at a gathering than from people calling out to you on the street.
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Oh haven't you missed out FM btw?
No, look at 1 MF
Brandy is talking about a rotating system for each gender and combination. She doesn't say (so I do understand her) all combinations must get equal numbers of poses now.
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isn't there also a MFS group too ;) think you missed just one Brandy
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All genres should get the same chance of poses. More LBGT poses to boost our community please.
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Sorry for being Pessimistic, you really think things are going to change ?
Poses for us are few are far between. We are minority here and that's it.
I've / we've tried different things to get more poses, nothing has really come to fruition.
What else can we do ??
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