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Discussions about sex => Woman with woman in AChat => Topic started by: Janine Dee on November 11, 2010, 11:06:22 AM
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I have to wonder if I pissed off the Development Team, because it's either a case of "Hah! It's a new position, but it's a FF position BASED ON COCK!" and they literally hope I choke on it.
That or they just really, REALLY like cock.
I mean seriously! If I thought it would help I would be tempted to say I want the A$150 I spent to see what this position was like.
It looks like they came out with a SS position that works the same, but after two months without a single implement, and the one two months ago ALSO being about sucking a strap on!
AChat HAS turned into a damn sausage fest, and if you don't have a taste for it you are shit outta luck!
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Serious obsession with an Plastic oral fixation,..think they missed the boat completely on this pose.It really does reek as nothing more than an obligatory nod to the FF crowd,..they definitely are not in the minds of their customers needs at that moment.
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Of course the fact it will almost certainly be another month or more before another FF implement doesn't help.
The way it's going that one will ALSO focus on their love of cock.
I would like to think that even the Het Set users would say that a man can satisfy a woman without his penis ever appearing. Yeah he might need it before he's satisfied, but this seeming NEED for a cock to be present shows a serious lack of understanding of sexuality from the programmers of a sexually based game.
I'm sorry, I'm still pissed, one of the moves for the woman on top is a hand job... seriously, you grab the FAKE shaft and stroke it up and down! They didn't half ass it, the quarter assed it at best!
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It's perfectly suited for she-males, but Janine's right, give the girls some true girl on girl action.
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Oh it is absolutely suited for the shemales, far, FAR better suited then it is for FF... which is where I'm going with this rant.
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Mmm its a pure SS pose which would be good for FS if the strapon was removed, as it is now I won't be able to do what I want while 69:ing with a girl.
For FF I can't see any use of this pose either, whats the fun of sucking each others strapon when you've got a pussy?
Seems like this was actually a SS pose which they made FS and FF aswell just for the heck of it. I would like it if they made an good FS 69 pose from this though... I liked the FS pose of Lucky Licker.
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That's the biggest thing. It felt like an afterthought. The hand job was the biggest clue to me. In the Woman with Woman thread I had a discussion over the virtues of sucking on strap ons, and she seemed to love the visual if nothing else, but the hand... that feels like a command that was made for flesh and blood and just carried over.
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I think this oral stimulation dildos won't bring to anybody pleasure. Useless pose
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That was my thought for FF and its kinda one way for a 69 FS pose. Its more fun when I can make my partner loose her focus for a while when 69:ing, atleast I can with another shemale.
I can understand that some like seeing their lover sucking a dildo, but if I was the sucker I would feel quite lost at what to do as its just rubber. I might do a better work if I knew the dildo I was sucking was a double ended type and using my hand on it would make some sense then.
It seems far more possible that more FF poses will drop in from now on as most work has been put into making SS and 3somes for Shemales possible, except the dresses and FM poses ofcourse. Well this one is primary an SS pose (should have been put on the page as such) and in some cases it works for FS too, but if I was part of the development team I would rather release the pose for FF aswell as it might bring some money... even if it is bad for it.
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The problem is that might have been their train of thought for the LAST FF position as well since that too was a strap on that also came out as a FS.
Which would say that it's been well over two months since they made a truly FF position.
That makes it more insulting rather then less.
Their mission statement at this point seems to be "Cocks and clothes."
What also gets to me is my regular assumption that the other person isn't stupid, but to make that assumption now I have to assume they were willing (or intending) to release an insult veiled as a position.
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I would've liked if the pose was modified for FS and FF, but I don't know how the FF pose would be any different than the 69 FF pose... I don't know of the options.
Things are kinda centered around cocks lately I guess, there isn't much for anal play either and I love to have mine played with.
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This brings me back to the FM position handjob with anal stimulation. I bought it cause it was the only position the girl could care for your little friend. I didn't like the dildo in my ass and tried not to think about :D
This is the question I have: Why is the dildo a "must have" in these positions? I don't see any sense in it. If I had to decide, I would give all (or almost) of the positions without dildo and one of the actions could be the dildo use.
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I remember having a similar discussion over the dildo in the spanking position.
Which just continues to support the idea that the Development Team loves cock and assumes that a position can't be truly enjoyed unless it's there. The dildo being the next best thing in their eyes.
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I think the dildo is added as a visual stimulation, for the ones that need it. I think they are falic-minded and like the idea of a girl sucking on something long & hard when a cock is not available. In that case, they might have chosen for an icecream or lollypop. In the spanking pose for instance, the dildo has no addition to the pose itself. Doesn't turn me on or off to see my partner suck on a lifeless thing.
As for the pose Lover mentioned, handjob with anal attention, the attention should be optional not manditory. In contrary to Lover's preferences, I do like a dildo used on me and it is one of the reasons I bought the position. The dildo should be an option in (almost) all poses.
For the girls: I fully understand this positions is not what you've been waiting for. They got it completely wrong. Maybe the A-tea, should consider strengthening their team with a woman or listen to the suggestion made, better
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Save their money on an employee and just listen to some of the spot on remarks customers make here.
Take a moment and talk with the customer base,..they would do fine,..the problem is the focus on shemale poses, which require so many variants of partnering.
everything has a dick,..interchangeable,..but when it come to the FF,...they falter,..not yet understanding even the het' set and others can use,..enjoy... the fondling,...kissing,... caresses, subtle actions,...pelvic grinding is not a necessity to achieving sensuality.
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Actually at this point I'm leaning away from clueless and more towards lazy. I think they made this position for the shemale/shemale (the handjob is a tell IMHO) and just made it FF as an after thought. In this case the insult is more that FF doesn't warrant any effort in their books. I think the fact it was marketed as a FF is just a huge blunder on their part in a case of wanting to try to make it look like they weren't ignoring the FF they made it all the more clear that they are.
At this point I'm also willing to wager at the MOST there will be one new FF by Christmas.
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It's the sort of position that should have been rolled out for all combinations, with or without a dildo/penis.
I mean come on, the 69 is one of the most common sex moves, it should have been a staple from the very beginning.
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And if they had been giving nominal support to FF development I wouldn't be as pissed off as I am. I'd still be making fun of it (and them) but at this point it's been a good three months since there's been a FF position that doesn't involve sucking silicone.
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If the next FF pose is like the last ones I won't know what to say.
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What will probably be even worse is neither will I, and for better or worse I'd be willing to bet it won't be seen in November.
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I just tried the 69 pose with another shemale, it is really hot then cause you really get to play with each other. But it feels unfair to FF considering all the releases we've got in the last months.
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No no honey, don't feel like that. We're still ahead of you in total moves (at least I'm pretty sure), and the gripe is with the Development Team, not any users. They have control of what comes out, you do not.
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I hope the A-team are sitting in their chairs, gloating over how they are able to push buttons, while they know there will be an awesome release for FF planned. Something that will shut everyone's mouth. At least for a short amount of time. Even I can tell some people are at their end, willing to give up AChat. Which would be a waiste of capital for them, and a loss for the community online. Hang in there girls
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For the record though one won't do it. There have been a mere two positions over the past three months, and they both focused on sucking silicone. A great one would be a step in the right direction, but only a step. Unless I see an upswing, unless they show me that they will actually give some sliver of consideration I'll find other places to spend my money when it's time to renew.
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Tick tock,...times a wasting development team
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I think there are more FF poses than MS, FS or SS... but not together then.
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There are 17 FF not including the standing there and standing there in sex clothes.
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But again, it's not about quantity but about the quality of the poses. Recently revisited what is displayed as FF here and am honestly sickened by the lack of true FF poses available. Can honestly say that when I'm with a woman, a penis is the last thing on my mind. Sure, sometimes internal stimulation can heighten the experience, but personal experience tells me it doesn't require a dildo or other phallic object to achieve those heights.
Janine is absoulutely justified in her rants. (And I apologize for not speaking up earlier.) Has to be pure laziness on the development team. HAS to be...they can't be THAT clueless, can they???
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hmmm...janine was looking for a partner at the camp fire. too bad the fire has burnt out...
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There are 14 MS (counting clothed foreplay), 16 FS and 6 SS poses not counting the two first as you did Janine. There are 3 poses where I can fuck a guy in his ass (one with a dildoe) but only one for him to fuck me :(. there are lots of poses for playing with his cock but I really want to get fucked and one pose gets quite stale after a while. There are quite alot of FS poses and with a girl I can booth give and receive in a number of ways. SS is kinda lacking but its very new and when doing SS the "Change Position" button is there so the possibilities aren't so bad. What I do want for SS is the FS pose where I can ride the girls strap on, that one should be very easy to make SS.
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Thank you Ante' for speaking up,...it is terribly important that the bi' community make a stand and their feelings heard. Such a large segment of the community, which remains untapped and crosses over in support of the lesbian community in mutual interest.
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That fire doesn't burn out Bobbler... I thought I'd address that point first. :P There just hasn't been any compatible fuel.
And thank you Antebellum... I've said in my rants that I think the Development Team seems to figure that the FM poses at least take SOME care of the bi women since you like men as well as women. The fact that you are speaking up and saying that is not the case is going to remind them it's not just the homo girls they are leaving out.
For Adera, it's hard to figure because there might be shemales who prefer men, or women, both or other shemales... much like everyone else. That said an average would be 12, still putting you guys under the FF total. Even using the raw numbers you're still under with FS the closest. No matter how you figure it though it wouldn't be fair to add them all together as this is all about the separate sections being able to be enjoyed.
Though it seems Antebellum and I and the others who voted no would agree that perhaps the last two should be figured out of the debate, maybe counted as half positions. :P
Either way I've got several months till I have to make a decision and I'll certainly keep ranting till then.
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Janine, it would be sad if you felt like you'd be better of leaving Achat. :(
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guess i have to spell it out for you janine :P
i wasn't referring to *your* fire, i was referring to the camp fire thread in general
and...
since ante spoke up about liking girls, i thought she could have been a date for you at the fire
got it now?
;)
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I dunno Bobbler, it's still there. We're still talking about it. There's at least embers that could be stirred back up.
And Adera sweetie... I dunno, I'm sure I would still keep in touch here, but if I decide not to renew I would basically keep the account and burn off any remaining A$ in 3 days if I wanted to play on AChat at one point or another.
If that happened though I would most likely look into a program like Red Light Center and if that happened I could easily see myself getting more and more focused there and dwindling here.
I'm not trying to pull any tantrum, taking my business elsewhere kind of thing. I'm just stating what's a likely outcome under the current circumstances.
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Too bad Red Light Center looks awful, there you can hang around with your avatars.
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Embers are still smouldering, only a little air is needed to get the fire going again... But who will blow?
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I really don't get it. I'm a guy and I like watching lesbian porn once in a while; but I prefer the DILDO-LESS stuff....now for a bunch of guys on the dev team, why is it "COCK COCK COCK" unless they are closet gays?
I have to agree the Janine, they are very lazy. They are out of touch with their customers....we request tuxedos, they give us banana hammocks; we request double penetration, and nothing....last I checked a "3some" means ALL three play together!!!!!
I feel bad for you girls, I really do. I have to make a decision come March if I will renew again, and based on the price hikes and quality decrease, that answer seems to be "Check out other game" (at least for me)
For whatever you decide, good luck and hope you find what you really want.
And Bear, as for pelvic grinding, what about 2 girls in missionary grinding pussy to pussy? SOOOOO hot!!!!!
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That or they are the guys constantly grabbing, rubbing or thrusting their crotch when ever a girl they fancy walks by. Whatever the reason they are looking at the world over a set of balls.
I'm mainly considering other game because I already know someone on there ;D :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* ;D and because I've found I kinda like the social/sexual chat program idea.
I just want one that wants me as a customer.
Oh and on the missionary? Scissoring is more comfortable, to get just the right angle for a missionary grind can be hell on the lower back. :P
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the avatars can handle it
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You can try other game out for free atleast... but no sex then I guess.
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mmm the grinding indeed apollo' though I understand Janine's point,...I'm certain those poses of kneeling foreplay, even if tainted by unrealistic thruusting, would have been heavily and eagerly accepted over the dlildo sucking being offered.
Development team needs to lose the dildo in FF poses,...be more creative to the needs of that group of clients..
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Fair enough Unhealer. :P ;)
And yeah Adera you can, if I get to that point I will. I honestly don't want to, but I think everyone on here is familiar enough with my reasons to know why I could.
And Bear... I'd be happy to take some real life lower back pain if it meant some dildo-less positions. ::)
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I think the poses where a shemale either rides a strap on or gets fucked from behind by a female would have been better as FF rather than the shemale 69 pose... even if its only anal.
Scissoring sounds like a quite good FF pose.
I've just tried other game briefly and its kinda like an mmo.
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MMO? Now I don't understand your english Adera. Probably because of a lack of knowledge abbrevations in english ;)
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Massive Multiplayer Online
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TY :-*