AChat Forum
Announcements => Upgrades and newly added features => Topic started by: John31 on July 21, 2014, 06:17:49 AM
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Please note, that the gifting rules has been changed.
Only users, who has paid for premium membership at least once can receive gifts.
Thanks for your attention.
John31
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Ty for the info john - do you know if this also counts for girs, did they change the rulein general?
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Hi there,
The info is right, and it is true for all genders.
Susy
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1st, who is John31, a newbie to the forum, and how does he know this information?
2nd, have we been notified in any other way? Like...err... officially?
3rd, if not, why not?
4th, what does this mean? That you can't gift a free user 200 so they can get a three day pass? If so, it rather defeats the object of a 3-day pass.
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Lol, Susan.....Susy confirmed it right up your message, so......it's real! about, John, yes, he is new
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Welcome to the Forum Village John31, Are you Achat Staff or a new member?
You speak like staff but dont have the Orange Stars of an Administrator.
Thank you & Susy for the new info.
I think it's a good move in the right direction and will act as a preventative measure to stop under - age users trying to join.
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Sussy thank you for clarifying the information ...
and letting us members know this wonderful new decision
That Achat has decided ...
In the future I would like to recommend one suggestion. We heard this from Member's
not knowing if it is true or not I would like to recommend staff or the Forum Moderators, Notify us
firsthand on a new procedures to confirm ventilation by staff ... thank you agin
John31
Welcome to the forum thank you for your input hope you will be posting more in the forum nice to have you with us and
a warm welcome
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Thank you Susy_A for quickly confirming the information.
Good to know you are still watching over us.
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this is a terrible rule. I can not gift people now.
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Hey Jasonn8.
Welcome to Forum.
You can gift premium members or members who have paid at least once. You can recognise them by the blue star on their profile pic. You just cannot gift free users any more. This is a preventative measure for young users.
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Part of the problem is that Achat never seems to do any analysis or thinking prior to implementing/removing features.
They never (rarely) listen to requests for poses, clothing, game modifications, etc.
If you gave a free user $Achat, they were obliged to buy a three day pass before they could do anything else.
To suggest that (just stopping) it is a preventative measure to inhibit young users is rubbish as there are thousands of other measures that could be put in place to stop them from then purchasing a three day pass with the money and, as has been proved time and time again, none of them are guaranteed to work (apart from presenting yourself in person with a valid id, and that isn't foolproof either) just as access to credit cards or other payment methods is no guarantee that they are of appropriate age.
These changes seem to be a knee-jerk reaction to something that, if it ever was a problem, should have been resolved appropriately years ago.
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It's always a difficult one to solve, clever kids will always get around the measures.
As long as Achat is showing they are trying though to discourage such use, they will stay in force.
If the freeuser makes one payment to verify age, the cens-ors will go away and you can gift as you did before.
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and you can gift as you did before.
Not true. It was rare that I would gift someone who has already demonstrated their ability to pay and has then obviously had experience as a premium user.
The whole point of the three day pass was that it could effectively only be gifted, i.e. you could only purchase it with $Achat and you could only get $Achat dollars by having them gifted (ok, sure, it was also possible to buy one with $Achat dollars that you had left over when your monthly/annual subscription expired but I doubt whether any/many people did that), and it enabled new users to experience life as a premium user for long enough to see whether they wanted to continue playing.
Achat could have still required credit card confirmation in order to purchase the three day pass with $Achat and they could have eliminated premium functionality once the three days expired. As I keep pointing out, little thought has gone into their knee jerk reactions and the changes they are making adversely affect the paying customers as much as, if not more than, the new users.
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While I can see AChat's point of wanting to protect themselves, I have to agree with Susan on this one. I often gifted new users enough A$ to not only get a 3 day pass but also to buy themselves a new outfit to wear. It gave them the chance to experience AChat on the premium level, which I like to think was a selling point for them to join the community, plus it allowed them to change their avatars in some small way. I would also use it to recruit people from other sites I was using.
With the method that has been put into place, I can no longer help sell AChat to new users via the experience of a premium subscription.
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They need a new system ..
I am sure they are working on it.
All business work on making there business grow economically
I myself invited my friends and some have joined some have not
But I feel they need more features to keep them interested in the game
its not just Cybersex that keep's consumers Coming Back...
I look to the Future of what Achat Has to offer ..
And I would like to Thank them for me they are doing alright
we might not get all we want but they have given us good things to ....
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The only way I can see round that is if the chosen freeuser can somehow verify their age to Achat to receive some kind of gift receiver status by a questionaire supplying information that can be checked.
I'm not sure Achat would want that extra administration, especially if it is not cost effective or if the freeuser would want to give it.
Anyone got any ideas where we can find a suitable solution for this?
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I'm not sure what the problem is.
Many sites enable access through credit card identification without necessarily taking money. All I was suggesting was that when a user attempts to buy a three day pass (i.e. typically, a new user that has been gifted $A) that they provide credit card identification.
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Many people in holland don't have credit cards because we don't have use for them, we normaly buy everything with debit cards in stores and for online buys we have a special banking system that does not use a credit card.
So age conformation without having a credit card can be a problem for Dutch wannabee members.
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Then how do you go about age verification for a site that requires it?
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I think Concerto's solution is a good idea.
seems to work on many "adult content" sites why not here?
As far as ccbill as achats bank we may be stuck with that for the time being.
Some friend of mine a few years back were working on a adult content cooking site, and ran into road block after road block trying to get a bank to handle their payment transactions. the USA banks citing moral clauses. "we don't do business with pornographers" was often said on the fiance rejections they got.
It might explain the fact that most adult sites are based in Canada
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Even age verify systems cause troubles and costs. Read this article
http://techliberation.com/2012/06/18/why-mandatory-online-age-verification-is-so-problematic-what-expert-task-forces-have-found/
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Just gotten to reading this topic and this all seems to do with much about nothing...
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it" the saying goes and I don't know, I guess I feel the way the gifting system, as far as Achat goes, was fine the way it was. Don't see much of an effective impact of pixelating or censoring private areas and limiting free users from indulging in 3-day passes. Why fuss and lose brain cells over a persistent but not an outright common practice in almost all adult gaming sites/programs? The little troublemakers here and there will always find a way or a crack or a hole somewhere, no matter what measures are taken. I only foresee Achat losing business, revenue and potential customers/subscribers over this.
From my point of view, improving the game itself seems to be a more important issue at this point. When was the last time a new room update occurred? From what I can recall, the last new room update we got was the beach, which seems to be ages ago. There's so many places Achat can go, from interactive gaming to going beyond rooms and developing social rooms such as a bar or a club of some sort. Taking it several notches down, I've been waiting for that lovely shirt Marilyn designed and submitted a month ago to be published in the shop and that hasn't even happened yet.
All in all, I just think there's so many other issues, of a higher significance to us members who have been here for quite a while, that Achat can and should address.
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Hear, hear!
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Amy, I (and I think many more) agree with your post. We just have to know one point:
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
Obviously it was broken. Now they did "first aid". Or AChatcould have got really hard troubles and none of could ever play again. Means, at the moment we may not ask if it was good - it wasn't - but it was necessary.
We all hope there is a better solution. So the best is, to find this better way. The more ideas we get, the bigger the chance to have a perfect one for all of us. Let's start
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Well... don't expect any changes for at least 3 months. If AChat is smart, which they seem to be, they will compare the number of NEW paying members (those subscribing for the first time) from this quarter we are in now, to the number of NEW paying members from the same quarter of the previous year.
If the numbers of NEW paying members is significantly lower then expect some changes. If the numbers are comparable (give or take a few), or the number of this quarter exceeds the numbers from last years quarter, then expect NO changes.
I am not privvy to the numbers, though it would be fascinating to see them, to see if we're growing.