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Ok, I think we can start a discussion thread about life outside AChat (I know it's hard to believe, but there is).
I give a topic and everyone can add his opinion. As we can get heavy discussions I just am a mod in this topic, just mediating between members.
The rules
- each opinion is allowed
- I won't accept attacking or offending other members just because they have a different opinion
- I stop each topic when the discussion is finished and start a new topic few days later
- I won't accept off topic during the discussion
- everyone is allowed to suggest topics. Send a pm to me and also write, if I shall tell it's your idea or if I shall not
Ideas and suggestions about topics, but also about basics are wished. It's a new idea and I'm curious what is going to happen.
I start the first topic soon. Would like to know what you think about in general....
Topics can be:
Life, love, weapons, nuclear energy, drugs, food....
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While I admire your courage, Lover. THIS will be a powder keg, in my opinion, and you will be constantly monitoring this and putting out fires. Just my warning. ;D but good luck with that.
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Thanks Andrea. I know ;) I have leaded and still do many discussions and know what can happen. This is the reason for the rules. I hope and believe we don't get bad mood but exchange of opinion, beliefs and we all will learn, understand and perhaps change our mind in some things.
Though I love to discuss too.... knowing the danger (you call it powder keg... I love it..lol) I don't add my personal mind, just moderate.
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I will try to keep calm then even if I see someone saying something that's completely wrong... I know I can get somewhat heated up. ::)
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Haha great Adera. Everyone has his opinion and is allowed to tell them. Everyone is right from his point of view. I really hope we get new insights instead of fights. But in case I have to recognize it's running out of control. I will stop it immediately.
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At this time in my life I'm thinking WHAT DID I DO WRONG :(
And what i can do to put it right
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I like the idea Lover, this forum from my experience is quite civil and polite, and well moderated. a discussion of current real life issues will be interesting reading. and being we are world wide here makes it even more interesting. a pole of the current topic might be interesting addition.
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Tango, sometimes we don't do something wrong and things go wrong though. Sometimes we make mistakes (I just recognized... I made some too last weeks).
Get active, do what you can do and talk. Talk honest and ask honest. There is one golden rule:
Talk, talk, talk.... and everyone has to give up his proud.
When you discover your mistakes (in case it was a mistake) do the best to change it. We CAN learn, we are able to change yourself if we really want.
You know you're having friends here. Wonderful friends who will be there for you. That's not the same, but it might help at least.
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Ty jayc, this I believe too. This is a very special forum with wonderful members and I think it's the time to take the chance and learn more about and from each other.
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Tangoracer, is that a topic suggestion that you wish to talk about?
Lover, I hope you wont accept all opinions, like racists ones for example.
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Adera, it's good you mention it. As I wrote, I don't accept attacking or offending, racism means attacking a whole group of people. So of couse I (or better, we, the mods) don't accept it. Also everything which is against law ( sex with children) and TOS of AChat is not allowed and will be removed immediately.
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To Adera It can be a topic any advice at this time would be great. All opinions and advice will be taken on board :)
Thanks Lover as always great advice
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I'll start the first one... What do you think about this topic?
Heheh... sorry... I just couldn't resist.
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Covems, you're late ;D we're already in it :P
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Lover, I hope you wont accept all opinions, like racists ones for example.
Adera, it's good you mention it. As I wrote, I don't accept attacking or offending, racism means attacking a whole group of people. So of couse I (or better, we, the mods) don't accept it. Also everything which is against law ( sex with children) and TOS of AChat is not allowed and will be removed immediately.
Guys (talking to the two in the quote) depend WHY you want to talk about racism.....if it's to attacking or offending a group of people, i don't think it will be good to talk about it here, but if it's to talk about the reason of the racism - or better say WHY it born - i think we can do it, even if we always run into the risk of going over the rules we gave us.
And Tango, my friend......you know what i think! talk will help you, but take some day before doing it and don't forget what i had say to you! but most important....don't forget we are here, if you need support!
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For me Adera's ask was unique, as she mentioned the attitude. You're right HB, a discussion about racism ( where does it start, which words or behave can be a sign of racism...) would be possible in general.
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:( Where to start.
Tango I still love you and you are the second best thing that has happened to me.
You are the last person I want to see hurting you have the kindest heart and the gentlest mind. I can think of no better man to help me raise Franky. This is why this hurts so much I had to make the choice the man I love and I truely do love you or my hole family.
I know I should have sat down with you not of just gone but if I had I have seen your heart break and that thought is to much for me as I to have a broken heart but I was always brought up that family always comes first.
I will try to come and see you but this is the only place i can get this message to you right now. I kiss and hold Franky for you the way you and only you did.
I ask all your friends here not to hate me for what has happened I love Tango still and always will so please help Tango get throw this hurt
Love you Tango and thank you all of the Achat world for makibg me so welcome.
I would under stand if you all don't want me here anymore I'm SORRY
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Dear Jane, dear Tango,
I'm not talking to you as a mod now but as a friend. I'm proud you both feel that this forum is your family too, that you both know you have friends here, being there for you when you need them.
We all don't know what has happened. We shared your luck, we have been happy to welcome Franky and to notice a great couple being here together. Just, thome things should be private, even between friends.
You both took the chance and used this topic for a first contact. That was brave and it is ok. As you both write, you're loving each other still and both want the other to be happy.
Talk now. Not here, talk together.
No one of us has the right to say one is wrong, one is right. For me, you both are always welcome here and I'm sure many of us think the same.
No matter if you're a couple or if each of you is alone here. Just make it clear between you.
Hey, get your asses up and talk - not about each other, with each other.
Your friend
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Jane, i agree with Lover......i'm glad this topic had give to you two the chance to start a talk, but know you two have to do it in private! And never forget, Jane.....you are always welcome here, no one will judge your choise! It's your life, live it as you think it can be better for you and Franky! We all know you wish every luck for Franky (and we wish it too, of course!) and i'm sure you will do your best!
And whenever you want......feel free to come here, Jane! You are allways welcome!
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Thank you all
Have Just spent 2 hours talking with Jane.
We still love each other deeply and will work this out
I thank you all again a big thank you goes to Lover as always wise wards
and to my sweet Hentaiboy a big hug.
We will let you all know how it turns out thank you all
Tango & Jane
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You two make my heart sing. Glad you are both talking... Live, Love , Laughter & communication. Wishing you all the best, now & always xxx :-*
Back to the topic ... Its a great idea to have some thought provoking topics... to listen to the subject, put your views across with reasons and have a damn good debate...
I'm all for it ;D
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Interesting Idea, would not mind chatting or debating few topics. now to the topic at hand what do i think about......................... thats very good question. I will see how thing progress before I bring up a subject.
ps. Tango & Jane I'm happy thing are working out for the two of you. best of luck
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The first discussion has started. It's called
Sex without love is no problem
If you want to suggest other statements, post them here or send a pm.
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The next discussion started. Topic:
Are you a hero when you rescue people but these people would not have been in danger if you had be careful before?
(For example, you took drugs or alcohol before, didn't check the situation or haven't done your job correct....)
It's based on the new movie of Denzel Washington "Flight", but is meant in general not just for pilots or this movie.
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NO. if you created the problem it is your responsability to fix it.
thats like me pushing you into the pool but at the last moment, grabbing you by the hair and pulling you back and then saying, "saved your life"
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NO. if you created the problem it is your responsability to fix it.
thats like me pushing you into the pool but at the last moment, grabbing you by the hair and pulling you back and then saying, "saved your life"
I agree a true hero is someone who risks there own safety to help others without ulterior motive.
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pafe, at this point Covems posts don't surprise me......i know he will put out some strange thing sometimes...but this is how we like him! ;D
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mmmm its an interesting thought, maybe God had to prop them on a stick as he modelled them before zapping them into life and hense the belly buttons were created. A fault he merely forgot to smooth over.
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Not a topic for atheists I see.
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I ' m sorry you felt the need to withdraw your topic. I was merely pointing out a theory of how the belly button may have been created. I was trying to think of how the belly button could have evolved ... Still working on that one..... But you withdrew...
I'm glad they did though ... I know someone who is particularly fond of belly button snogging , try it .... It's so much better than toe sucking..
Oops, I digress... Please don't withdraw your topics discussions ... Atheists are welcome to discuss the creation of them too ... Be it an Inny. Or outy...
As to your current question .... It's food for thought .. I believe they do get the benefits ... Who hasn't tried to spell their name or swear words on their toast.!
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I really don't think it's your fault Brandy. ::)
Atheists doesn't really believe in "the creation" btw, it's more a disbelief of deities and such fairy tales.
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Do you believe, this is the right topic for funny comments?
I ask you not to flood this thread with off topic. If you want to discuss it serious do it in the corresponding topic.
http://www.funnyadultgamesplay.com/forum/index.php/topic,2225.0.html
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My apologies for ruining the serious discussions with my silly questions.
I will take them down.
Covems
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Thanks Covems. Accepted of course.
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Just for the record. I was being serious. I really do think about these things.
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Noticed. Start an own topic as I suggested... we might get some deep and copious findings.
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I didn't understand how this topic works :(
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Someone starts a topic for a serious topic on things, and we just post our view points and ideas for a healthy debate :)
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ah oky, thanks.
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New discussion:
What do you think about a possible war in Syira?
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There is war now.
How can anyone not recognize it?
A civil war.
It hurts everyone.
Too sad to even think about.
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old_goat, the politic class is starting to recognizing it now cause oil prize had start to rise......that's the real reason!
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How about a discussion on H7N9 virus?
Does anyone believe it was created as part of the new world order?
Does anyone think it's a result of the over use of antibiotics?
Could be an interesting chat
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Good idea HGO. Let's start this discussion
Thread for discussion is here:
http://www.funnyadultgamesplay.com/forum/index.php/topic,2225.msg76945.html#new
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I would like a discussion why is it that when some one makes a opinion
other's like to oppose the opinion .
Just for the note all opinion are open for each to express their thoughts
there is no right or wrong its each his own thoughts.
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Be a sad world if we all agreed, everyone is different and individual. The way we express and conduct ourselves, is the key. The wider our experience, the deeper our tolerance.... now where did I read that.. lol
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I was meaning when some one makes a Opinion and the other party dose not agree with
it, why do they get mad or think there way is the right way why cant they just listen
to it and let it go Not get upset and think there why is the right yes everyone is different
and have there own Opinion but why get upset over the other ones
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pssst Roxy, thats why we got Lover ;D ;D ;D ;D
LOVER - KING OF FORUM
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lol Barandy
His King of many more then the Forum :P
haha but we are of topic lol
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WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT RELIGION, WHICH IS THE ONE TRUE GOD? OR ARE WE JUST BAGS OF WET BACTERIA WITH A NEED TO FEEL INFERIOR?
Imagine if you can a country somewhere in this world, It would also apply on another world, but let's stick to what we know. let's make it an island so that they are isolated.
In this country there is perfect peace. No crime and no wars. The people of this country are very pious and they regularly worship God and thank him for their health and happiness. They have never seen their god nor does he speak to them, but they have a book written by their ancestors which has stories of people that god has spoken to and of how the world was created by God, so they are sure that what they believe must be the truth.
One day a strange ship arrives. Full of curiosity and generosity the islanders welcome the strangers.
The strangers are horrified that the people on this island don't worship the same god as them and tell them that they must all be evil and will be condemned to hell if they do not immediately convert to their religion, worshiping their god, who is described in great detail in a book written by their ancestors. The islanders are very confused, but will not convert as their god must be the one and only god because they have been taught so for their entire history.
So you get the picture, right?
These two religions have never met each other and worship different gods, each religion convinced that theirs is the only true religion because that's what they have always been taught.
How will they ever be reconciled?
One religion's book teaches respect for the world & all the creatures in it and also for Nature itself. This book teaches that after death one's deeds and what one has taught to one's children are all that live on.
The other religion's book states categorically that to kill is a mortal sin and yet the book is full of killing, murder and violence. This book promises eternal wonderful afterlife to everyone who is a true believer in their god, even if they are a thief, murderer or rapist, just as long as they confess their sins just before they die.
The point I am trying to get across is that people, the human race, white, black, yellow, gay or homophobic, male or female, will believe what is drummed into them from birth. Not many have the intelligence or the will to lift their heads and see that other people have been indoctrinated differently and are just as convinced that they are the only true believers in the only true religion.
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I think any one can believe in their choices
there Belief
there faith their sex gender there own opines
their own life every one has there way of looking at life
there way .We can all say our own opines, that is it what makes every one so special in their individuality.
Respecting each others on theirs is hard on others..And some may not like it
What Religion is
A religion is an organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to an order of existence
Many religions have narratives, symbols, and sacred histories that are intended to explain the meaning of life and/or to explain the origin of life or the Universe. From their beliefs about the cosmos and human nature, people derive morality, ethics, religious laws or a preferred lifestyle. According to some estimates, there are roughly 4,200 religions in the world.
I can say a Lifestyle a Beliefs and Ethics is a religion there are many ways to see a Religion ...
Your Quote :
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT RELIGION, WHICH IS THE ONE TRUE GOD? OR ARE WE JUST BAGS OF WET BACTERIA WITH A NEED TO FEEL INFERIOR?
This is your own opine of how you see it .
ARE WE JUST BAGS OF WET BACTERIA WITH A NEED TO FEEL INFERIOR
I am running short on time but I want to say
My faith is not a Religion it is what I believe its my opine
There are many things I don't agree on and their is many Lifestyle that are different from mine
and there is many different opines from many different people and
this is where we all have to learn to
Respecting each others on theirs .
We cant say go change the way you look , think feel are just because you don't agree with their way.
I say Respect others with there opines if you dont agree with them or like it leave it alone
My own opine is I don't like some I see I close my eye or look away
If I strong about it I will give my own opine and that is all I can do
Peace be with you all ...
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Blue, as I see your post it's not just about religion. It's about building our own reality in general. When we all grow up, we are influenced in many ways. Our culture, our milieu, the way we are treated, the things our idols and friends are doing. We "learn" what is right and what is wrong (behaviour, attitude, beliefs, opinion). We learn to get rewards or punishments. All this time we also have to find our place in the community.
The result: We build our own reality. No two people have the same reality - reality isn't what is real, but what we think is real.
None of us is better or worse, we are just different.
Now we have the choice - fighting them, calling them stupid or wrong or we can accept there are other people with different opinions (step 1) or even understand them - it doesn't mean we have to agree in all they do, but walking in their shoes (step 2).
Then we have to decide - we "look with their eyes" and recognize they are right (we got new infos) or we keep our own opinion - we agree to disagree. Which just means, we know why something is right for them.
It's less a question of intelligence, but a question of will. Which, for me, means being human. The ability (!) to live together with people who are similar as we are AND living peaceful together with people who are different than we, is possible the most important quality that differs us from animals and (who are only following their instincts) is the only chance to exists.
If you don't want to go this way, you always "have" to be upset about other people and feel angry. A wise german man once said
"Take people as they are. There are no others."
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WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT RELIGION, WHICH IS THE ONE TRUE GOD? OR ARE WE JUST BAGS OF WET BACTERIA WITH A NEED TO FEEL INFERIOR?
This was the title of the post. It was intended to provoke reaction and opinion. It was not an opinion it was a question.
The Roman Emperors actually believed they were Gods because they had absolute power over everything in the known world.
Roxxy, I apologise publicly for appearing to put you down. Those who know me know I would lay down my life for the right to free speech for all. but that is for all
If you will please stop posting your faith/religion everywhere on this site then I will have no reason to post responses.
This is a sexual fantasy site and that's what I come here for.
I don't want to get involved in political debate, religious fervor, or race hatred. I've been coming here for 3 years now and I think the forum is losing it's way by trying to allow and promote topics on everything under the sun.
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Blue if you but me down
thats its ok thats on you .You dont hurt me and you dont need to apologise to me.
but to tell me to stop posting on something you dont like abut me is wrong
I don't tell you to stop posting in that . I don't think I ever told you or posted any thing that tells you to stop it because I don't agree to it .It would me wrong of me if I did because as I see it it , It is your life your Fantasy
It is your fantasy to do as you wish........
if you dont like my post dont look at them ...Just like I dont look at yours and when I dont like yours I just
dont look at them or leave them alone or ignore a lot .
Yes This is a sexual fantasy site to use for members as they wish with
their consenting adult partner or partner's lover's or friends
as the both agree
or
members to use as they wish
and every one has their way of using it
as they wish not as others dictating them how to use it.
If you have a issue with me I would suggest you pm me .
You respected me I respected you ...
I don't tell you what to post so you should not tell me
don't judge me I don't judge you.
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This can not go unanswered!!
All heretics
be prepared for:
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So there!
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If
you found out for certain there is a Heaven and a Hell,
how would you change your life?
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I start your idea in the discussion thread
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so whats the topic :)
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so whats the topic :)
Here is the topic at Amethyst
http://www.funnyadultgamesplay.com/forum/index.php/topic,2225.0.html
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WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT RELIGION, WHICH IS THE ONE TRUE GOD? OR ARE WE JUST BAGS OF WET BACTERIA WITH A NEED TO FEEL INFERIOR?
Imagine if you can a country somewhere in this world, It would also apply on another world, but let's stick to what we know. let's make it an island so that they are isolated.
In this country there is perfect peace. No crime and no wars. The people of this country are very pious and they regularly worship God and thank him for their health and happiness. They have never seen their god nor does he speak to them, but they have a book written by their ancestors which has stories of people that god has spoken to and of how the world was created by God, so they are sure that what they believe must be the truth.
One day a strange ship arrives. Full of curiosity and generosity the islanders welcome the strangers.
The strangers are horrified that the people on this island don't worship the same god as them and tell them that they must all be evil and will be condemned to hell if they do not immediately convert to their religion, worshipping their god, who is described in great detail in a book written by their ancestors. The islanders are very confused, but will not convert as their god must be the one and only god because they have been taught so for their entire history.
So you get the picture, right?
These two religions have never met each other and worship different gods, each religion convinced that theirs is the only true religion because that's what they have always been taught.
How will they ever be reconciled?
One religion's book teaches respect for the world & all the creatures in it and also for Nature itself. This book teaches that after death one's deeds and what one has taught to one's children are all that live on.
The other religion's book states categorically that to kill is a mortal sin and yet the book is full of killing, murder and violence. This book promises eternal wonderful afterlife to everyone who is a true believer in their god, even if they are a thief, murderer or rapist, just as long as they confess their sins just before they die.
The point I am trying to get across is that people, the human race, white, black, yellow, gay or homophobic, male or female, will believe what is drummed into them from birth. Not many have the intelligence or the will to lift their heads and see that other people have been indoctrinated differently and are just as convinced that they are the only true believers in the only true religion.
anyone who has spent any time talking with me KNOWS i am opinionated and yes Arrogant.
this is one of my favourite subjects to debate, Blue you have a innate insight into the human psyche in this matter,
let us go back to the very basics.
In the beginning there was GOD (who or whatever you choose to call him or her as you prefer, my father called him Huey, so i will choose that)
and he beheld the great nothingness
for his own reasons this displeased him and he created the universe
(big bang, creation, whatever you choose to believe)
some people believe it took 6 days and then one of rest
personally i tend to think a omnipotent god (Huey)
wouldn't need 6 days but a mere thought would create the universe instantly
but aside from that TIME hadn't been created yet so a measure is irrelevant
so lets jump forward in the newly created time line,
to the evolution of man and his intelligent (SIC) thoughts
man doest have the ability to comprehend infinity so there is no way he can comprehend GOD (Huey)
so he tries to create a framework that he can fit to the universe as he knows it
and of course due to MAN's limitations his theories are full of errors and false premises
and as usual with man where there are two or more persons (number = X) there will be X + 1 -> infinity number of theories
and yes they are theories because they cannot be repeated or proven by any scientific process
Man has created religion to assuage his inability to comprehend the incomprehensible
these 'religions" have been handed down orally since the first religion was INVENTED by man
then along comes a genius who creates writing so these stories have been written down and instantly become FACT
animism was the first recognised religion the belief that every thing has a spirit (read GOD)
Then we have the Egyptian civilisation and SUN worship (this has some merit as the sun is the source of all energy that allows existence on earth)
but like all religion it was corrupted by man
(Remember this statement)
then along came Abraham, with his Israelites and because of differences of opinion they split into Jews and Muslim, again caused by man not GOD as you know him. these tw2o groups have been fighting over the same piece of ground over since.
then another split followers of Christ and traditional Jews who were at each others throats from inception the followers of Christ were corrupted into the Christian religion which itself has been splintered into myriad factions.
Are you seeing a pattern here?
GOD is Good until man intervenes, organised religion has been the root of all war and persecution from its inception man corrupts religion for POWER and MONEY, so believe in GOD , and throw religion out dispose of it quash any organised religion, the minor good it doe3s is far outweighed by the damage it continues to do, oppression of the poor, not to mention what they have done to children that they are given custody of.
nothing more than hypocritical corrupter of power and money and have laid waste to the world from time immemorial. you have all been brainwashed into following MEN not GOD.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_religion
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How very profound and deep ...and said exactly as I think it ...I don't attend churches or mosques or synagogues ....but I have a far greater belief in god ...good ...etc ....given where we are in the universe and the many other thousands of unexplained miracles that never get mentioned ....I am inclined to agree .
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Umm thanks :)
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"you have all been brainwashed into following MEN not GOD."
I follow Jayc. He is my Sex God and ermmm I corrupted him, or may be ...he corrupted me. No matter,
We enjoy the worship bit. ;)
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The alleged Sex God Exposed
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And Congrats on hitting 250 posts ausWoody :)
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Well, if you want to kill a party start discussion about politics or religion. The bodycount will rise.
As far as I'm concerned religion is meant to keep the people away from any kind of illumination or real spirituality. Our makes us pray to the golden calf, others do different. But what do they do to make us understand who we are?
The strife of mankind for deep wisdom, knowledge and meaning is perverted by any religion in my opinion. Mainly old men telling rubbish.
There are old writings found around 80 years ago. One is called evangelism of Thomas. It says that if you want to find god, you just have to turn a stone. That's pretty much what I feel. You need neither churches, popes nor priests. All you need is confidence and faith. The latter is most hard to find as I judge it.
So to keep it short religion per se is meant to control masses and not for their fortune. It is a tool of power. In the medieval times there was a saying between a pope and a landlord: I keep them dumb and you keep them poor. As Lenin said opium. It keeps the people away from clear spirit.
One argument pro religion is ethics and moral. So what about? They still refer to a codex old fashioned since centuries. If you act the way that you would accept your actions as a general rule for everyone, it's fair enough. All that is needed. Or treat people as you want to be treated yourself. Slightly different. But Kant in short. So also for a ethical or moral compass religion is not needed and most probable also not suitable. But a punishing god is good for discipline.
My conclusion is that religion is good for nothing. Except for those who rule it or rule through it.
The question about god is another matter. I am not yet decided and I doubt I will during this lifetime. May be her/he/it is a human invention because we are not able to face ourselfs being meaningless and are afraid to face the eternal nothing. My life must have a sense somehow. Must it? We sail on a sand corn through unlimited space. What should be the sense of it?
On the other hand. All this wonders, creatures, living beeings. All this miracles of life just because it happened? From a single cell bacteria or yeast cell is so much to learn which makes you tremble with the perception this must be godlike. And billions of this tiny structures differentiate, build tissues and organs and organize themselves to higher beings. Themselves? As if unlike all other matter life itself strifes for more order and functionality, complexity and intellect. May this be a sign of something higher or is this all just by concurrence?
But we are not the end of the story. We are just one picture from a long movie which is called evolution. Our species is one which has risen and once it will fall. Either developed further to something new or replaced by another. So what makes us special besides our hybris? That we presume we are the only ones aware of our own exsistance? God loves us? US? Killing each other in countless numbers with no reason better than power and money? I wonder why god should have only burned Sodom and Gomorrah.
And than there are ones who show love. Running in burning houses risking their lifes to rescue the children of others. May there be a godlike spark involved?
I am ripped in between and really have no clues what may be or may be not. It is no knowledge and so we refer it to believe. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. Though I hope for a merciful god as may be the most of us. Oh, if it comes to judgment we better hope to face mercy! But if I find god, I am sure god will have rested inside of me. Or under a tree. A stone. But not in a temple or church. Or in the words of a "authority".
But in the end to discuss about believe might give interesting insights of others thoughts. May be knew perspectives on things. Or reason for bitter quarrels. It would be close to the discussion about wether you believe red is a beautiful color. You like red? Welcome. You dislike red? Also welcome. Suum quique.
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I had an interesting thought process this evening while watching the DRUM on ABC TV.
It related to
The Port Arthur massacre of 28–29 April 1996 was a massacre in which 35 people were killed and 23 wounded. It occurred mainly at the historic Port Arthur former prison colony,[1] a popular tourist site in south-eastern Tasmania, Australia.[2] It was the deadliest mass shooting in Australian history, and amongst the worst in the world.[3]
Martin Bryant, a 28-year-old from New Town, a suburb of Hobart, was found guilty of the shootings and given 35 life sentences without possibility of parole.[4] Following the incident, it emerged in the media that Bryant had significant intellectual disabilities. He is now imprisoned in the Wilfred Lopes Center, near the Risdon Prison Complex.[5]
Following the spree, the Prime Minister of Australia, John Howard, introduced strict gun control laws within Australia and formulated the National Firearms Programme Implementation Act 1996, restricting the private ownership of high capacity semi-automatic rifles, semi-automatic shotguns and pump-action shotguns as well as introducing uniform firearms licensing. It was implemented with bipartisan support by the Commonwealth, states and territories.[6]
Whether or not you agree with the knee jerk reaction of the governments of the day, it was the first and only massacre we have had in Australia since the inception of semi-automatic weapons unlike America that seems to have one on a weekly basis. So regardless of your individual opinion of the new laws they exist and we the general population (as opposed to the criminal underground) will never have access to these types of weapons
Taking that reaction of the Government of the day I want you to turn your mind to another (in my opinion much worse situation) the fact that 1 in 3 females children and 1 in 5 male children suffer sexual molestation, rape or are murdered by paedophile’s who prey on our defenceless children who are unable to defend themselves, whether it be in their own homes, at schools both private and public where they are indoctrinated with “INCLUSION” to accept all sexual types transgender homosexuals and every type of people who identify as whatever sexual type they wish too, so a man of 40 years is allowed to self-identify as a female and use the female toilets and change rooms in public places, and yes there is a minute % of true confused people there are a HUGE number of paedophiles and sexual predators who are and will use this facility to prey on our sons and daughters who AGAIN are unable to protect themselves from these monsters, all for the sake of left leaning political correctness and INCLUSION.
Can you see the stupidity of these two different situations?
1/- a single incident of harm to 60 people causes a complete ban on the tools used!
2/- an ongoing attack on the most innocent members of our community causing an open door policy for these monsters to share the most private of bodily functions where they can prey undisturbed.
Now I ask you to think about the parallels in these two situations and using your natural intelligence and common sense decide if these innocents haven’t been sacrificed dragged into hell by these politically correct members of our society for their own pleasure and gain.
Yes I’m sure I will be called a lot of unpleasant names etc. Look into your heart and think about where society is headed in the future. (oh btw if you do resort to name calling and hate speech towards me it is because you know I’m speaking the truth and you are incapable of arguing your point in an intelligent manner )
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Just one question in between.
Consider your laws were still unchanged.
This would enable everyone - including the people you consider child molesters - to buy this guns legally.
It's serious if child molesters run around, agree. But more serious are child molester with automatic rifles running around, no?
From an European POV it is anyway hard to understand that 2017 ppl still wear guns like a hundred years ago facing the frontier.
But I don't want to judge it. Whoever wants to live in a country where everyone getting pissed can easily grab a gun, welcome. I am happy about living in a country where it is not that easy.
In my country (80 billion citizen) approx. two dozen ppl died from guns during 2016. Just Chicago had almost 800 during 2016. Plain figures, make up your mind yourself.
But I don't get your point. You're taking an apple and compare it to a pear. I don't get what the one has to do with the other. Would public toilets become safer if automatic rifles were still legal?
Concerning Inclusion: Do you think it would be safer to force the male/female scheme upon everyone?
Or to let everyone live according to her/his mindset? For those who don't fit into this scheme it would be much more disturbing and frustrating to keep up with an illusion and acting each day against what they feel should their nature be like.
So who do you think could be of a bigger threat to society? The one forced to be what society expects her/him to be or the one who can live her/his life as freely as chosen?
If you take mass murders like Ted Bundy or others you will often see in their biographies that they were forced into a frame that did not fit them. If John Doe, 49, suddenly feels nice being a woman, he may as far as I am concerned. As long he shaves his legs when wearing skirts of course! Oh well, waxing would do!
If something leads us towards a tolerant, peace- and colorful and understanding society where everyone can find her/his place as long as he does not bug others, I'm all for it.
Oh, and just for the record: Exactly how many transgender where facing trials accused of child molesting? Compared to uncles and aunts, dads and moms, cousins, brothers and sisters or good family friends? Following your logic it would be more reasonable to fight against families, I suppose.
Because I don't want to stay behind in the shadows I boldly announce that I am also open for insults of any kind.
But consider this: If you point your finger at me, you point another three at yourself.
And a very last one: Look at your heart? Exactly not. If it comes to politics or society one should not look into the heart. One should probably get rid of emotions, predjudices and supersticions and get the facts, consider them and decide according to them. Reason and only reason alone.
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Let me say first: I don't give a damn about political correctness. It's made by people who think they have the right to tell us, what we have to call others. I am for parity, equality, tolerance and against any kind of censorship. Political correctness is censorship IMO.
Now to your question:
No, I do not see a stupidity! Like Pandorra said, these are 2 different situations which you can not compare.
I also notice a link in your argumentation which in my eyes is not existing. Why is inclusion increasing the risk of sexual attacks? Tolerance and acceptance are in my eyes the only way to build trust, to take down prejudices and to live together in peace.
Of course, every sexual attack is too much and may not be tolerated. Every little soul has to be protected. Every child has the right, to live and grow without fear. To suspend someone, just because he is different, is not the right way.