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Yayyy look we have new forum things

Thank you Achat

<color=red> Still need colours and fonts though </color>

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Tuesday 22 June 2021

These times are GMT+1

CROATIA V SCOTLAND
AND
CZECH REPUBLIC V ENGLAND

Sweep 1 – Croatia – PC_666 V Scotland – Skal
Czech Republic – PC_666 V England – Vaughan

Sweep 2 – Croatia – tearle12 V Scotland – AmberLady
Czech Republic – PC_666 V England – PC_666

RESULTS CROATIA 3 – 1 SCOTLAND
Croatia – 3 Points

PENDING RESULTS CZECH REPUBLIC 0 – 1 ENGLAND.
England – 3 Points.

[Vaughan]

Group B Results.

STANDINGS.

Top 2 teams Qualify to next round – Congratulations to Belgium & Denmark.

Finland could qualify but is pending results in other groups.
UPDATE – Finland have not qualified. They are a third placed team with worse goal difference. Commiserations to the team, their supporters & losing sweepers.

Russia has been eliminated from this tournament. Commiserations to the team, their supporters & losing sweepers.

[Vaughan]

Group C Results.

STANDINGS.

Top 2 teams Qualify to next round – Congratulations to Netherlands & Austria.

Ukraine could qualify but is pending results in other groups.
UPDATE – Ukraine have qualified as a third placed team with a better goal difference. Congratulations to Ukraine.

North Macedonia has been eliminated from this tournament. Commiserations to the team, their supporters & losing sweepers.

[Vaughan]

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[Vaughan]

Hi

My previous post is true. See Pic 1 above (Reply #171192) for prices prior to April 2020.

I do see what you mean though.
Prior to April 2020, we paid for our subscription either with A$ or with cash, which I believe is the same fee as now – USD $39.95 – and for that we received 12 months subscription and 6,000 A$ to spend in the shop.
(The month long and 3 month long bought subscription also received A$.)

Compared to now where we buy A$10,000 for USD $39.95 but A$7,000 has to be spent on buying a 12 month subscription, leaving us A$3,000 to spend.

You and probably others feel that we are A$3,000 worst off than before.

To compensate for this shortfall, Achat has allowed buying members 4 gifts at any price. (If you are wily like Corina_33 & JessiCapri you will choose the most expensive gifts you can find).

When we buy our subscription we also get a further, lower value 1 gift which we can choose to take or save and build up for more expensive ones later on.
This could go over or under the AS3,000 shortfall.
Every time we buy A$ OR a subscription, your account takes stock and lets you know the choices available to you.

We have to spend our A$ in the shop, so members choose the gifts. Gifts we would have probably bought anyway.
The disadvantage or advantage, depending on your generosity is this “gift A$3,000 shortfall” has to be spent on you. You cannot gift it to others (unless Achat has yet to change this policy) and its the number of gifts that count not the shop price.

The remaining A$3,000 can also be used to buy further subscription. You can buy straight away and see your “Prolong” membership days increase & of course adds to your account the increase credit for free gifts.

So therefore, your A$10,000 you bought buys you
A$ 7,000 – 12 month subscription plus 4 gifts, plus cheaper 1 gift (5 Gifts in total)
A$ 2,000 – 3 months subscription plus gift credit (Exact amount is unknown at the moment)
A$ 750 – 1 month subscription plus gift credit (Exact amount is unknown at the moment)

For your cash, you get 14 months subscription with A$250 (A$100 buys you 3 days) left over which can be used to buy 6 days sub, or in the shop.
Plus the 5 gifts and gift credit you can accumulate and build up.

The prices are still comparable to before but you have restrictions that will effect your gifting capacity to others and the gifts you choose to take.
Instead of buying the best value and most poses / clothes for your A$, you need to shop now for the best gifts to save your spending credit.
Be careful when choosing your gifts – they may not be suitable for your gender or persuasion. Click on the pic to make it bigger to see it better.
It also seems not all poses are available for gifts to take. There are a lot of MF poses missing, which I presume are the best sellers and are the most expensive. For example the MF Sex swing is not available as a gift and costs A$349.

I suspect those who pay monthly or buy 3 months subscription may be the biggest losers.
I would be interested to hear from members what gifts they have received for their cash and subscription to see if their shortfall is made up.
If memory serves correctly, I think the cash payments are the same for A$ but the subsequent A$ subscription payment needs to be made up in gifts (It used to be: $9.95 = 1 month sub + 1500A$ ; $14.95 was 3 month sub + 3,000A$? – not sure of A$ receipt on the 3 month subscription)
Therefore the monthly gift shortfall is A$750 & the 3 month subscription shortfall is possibly A$1,000.

I believe this is probably a way for Achat to recoup some cash & encourage members to use their A$ and not allow it to build up so much. Also to encourage members to buy further A$ and for the less popular items in the shop to be bought or chosen as gifts.

Achat has also indicated if long term or “well off” members have bought the gift items already, they would consider giving “Game Time” instead of gifts but this would have to be requested through Achat “Support”.

The prices are still good value compared to other similar games.

Lets also put this into perspective, the cost is USD $9.95 or £8.76 or 10.08 Euros per month.
That’s at Achats most expensive. I spend more than that on a drink down the pub in a night!

Buy A$10,000, save 40% (for $39.95 or £35.18 or Euro 40.47) and it costs even less and works out as USD $3.33 or £2.93 or Euro 3.37 per month – That’s the cost of a cup of coffee at a coffee shop or if you prefer supermarket prices – a cup of coffee and a sandwich.
So remind the e-beggars of that next time they try to squeeze you for A$ and the use of the poses YOU bought.

[Vaughan]

Current Cost of Premiership in cash.

American Dollars

English Stirling:
£8.76 = A$ 1,500
£13.16 = A$ 2,500
£21.97 = A$ 5,000
£35.18 = A$ 10,000

Euro
10.08 EUR for 1500 virtual A$
15.14 EUR for 2500 virtual A$
25.27 EUR for 5000 virtual A$
40.47 EUR for 10,000 virtual A$

[Vaughan]

Current Premium Membership Prices

[Vaughan]

Sorry, I’m having to split this answer due to the new forum restrictions on links GRRRR.

Premium Membership Prices.

[Vaughan]

Monday 21 June 2021

These times are GMT+1

UKRAINE V AUSTRIA
AND
NORTH MACEDONIA V NETHERLANDS

RUSSIA V DENMARK
AND
FINLAND V BELGIUM

Sweep 1 – Ukraine – GenCam V Austria – Devil4You
North Macedonia – PC_666 V Netherlands / Holland – Nicole42
Russia – dear_abby V Denmark – Skal
Finland – Brand19 V Belgium – dear_abby

Sweep 2 – Ukraine – JohnnyLove5 V Austria – LoopySammy
North Macedonia – PC_666 V Holland / Netherlands – Robbie_333
Russia – Cohan V Denmark – Devil4You
Finland – LoopySammy V Belgium – tearle12

RESULTS UKRAINE 0 – 1 AUSTRIA
Austria – 3 Points

RESULTS NORTH MACEDONIA 0 – 3 NETHERLANDS.
Netherlands – 3 Points

RESULTS RUSSIA 1 – 4 DENMARK
Denmark – 3 Points

RESULTS FINLAND 0 – 2 BELGIUM
Belgium – 3 points

[Vaughan]

GROUP A Results

Top 2 teams Qualify to next round – Congratulations to Italy & Wales.

Switzerland could qualify but is pending other group results.
UPDATE – Switzerland have qualified as a third placed team with higher points. Congratulations to Switzerland .

Turkey has been eliminated from this competition. Commiserations to the team and supporters.

[Vaughan]

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[Vaughan]

Hi Xero,
Welcome to Forum.

The game is actually cheaper than is was before.
Before April 2020, the premium membership cost 10,000 Achat Dollars for a 12 month subscription now it is A$7,000
A 3 day pass cost 200 Achat Dollars before, now it costs A$100.
1 month was A$1,500 now it is A$750
3 months was A$3,500 now it is A$2,000

In April 2020, Achat kindly allowed its members to play for free during the Covid19 Pandemic, just buying any new things from the shop.
Any subscription after that date was refunded or converted to accounts in A$.
This lasted 14 months until June 2021 when the new premium came into play.

This free play during this time, I feel was very generous of the Achat owners and gave members in lockdown a welcome release from the worry and confinement around them.
It is a business after all, and for it to continue it has to be worth the developers time and money.
Members cant be expected to play for nothing, without investing into the game they enjoy so much.

Other games of a similar nature also gave their members discounts, some up to 50% off the normal subscription but members still had to pay to play.
At least Achat gave members the opportunity to play for free, and it was members choice if they paid for further things from their shop.
Lots played without investing 1 penny into the game and partnered with people who had and bought many items already.

Now it’s time to pay to play again.

I have heard the argument that Achat are having 2 bites of the cherry by charging for subscription and for shop items.
But I say look at the prices.
Achat charges around half for their subscription than other games of a similar nature and then its the members choice if they spend more in the shop.
This makes it affordable to people where other games are too costly.
Achat has even eased this cost by allowing members to obtain gifts when they invest and buy A$, and taking the more expensive items, they may not have bought otherwise.
Once an initial outlay of decent poses and clothes have been bought, members could play for years by just paying the subscription as they need it.

Achat is good value for money in comparison to other games and the simplicity of the game is something I find quite attractive.
There are moves by Achat to improve the game which they are working so we see some glitches but overall, I think we have a great game with great people.

Enjoy the exciting times ahead.

In saying that, I do want the facilities back from the old Forum.
The only advantage of this new forum, is it embeds links and You tube music.
Please can we have these back: colour, fonts, insert images (more than 1), messages (PMs), quoting, editing old posts, spacing….
Thank you.

[Vaughan]

Sunday 20 June 2021

These times are GMT+1

ITALY V WALES
AND
SWITZERLAND V TURKEY

Sweep 1 – Italy – JessiCapri V Wales – dear_abby
Switzerland – PC _666 V Turkey – PC_666

Sweep 2 – Italy – dear_abby V Wales – PC_666
Switzerland – Devil4You V Turkey – PC-666

RESULTS ITALY 1 – 0 WALES
Italy – 3 Points

RESULTS SWITZERLAND 3 – 1 TURKEY.
Switzerland – 3 Points.

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